ronjon1990 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Forge said: I don't see why not if he can still kick. He missed all last year, so don't know where he stands with all that. Bit if he can kick, there are teams that can use him. He can't be worse than what Tampa Bay has been throwing out there How would THAT be for some career arch irony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 If he was hitting field goals from 60 yards regularly he would of been with it. In in reality they got a good kicker 5 rounds to early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 9:24 PM, Forge said: Still....there have been many a first round pick that have given less value then the raiders got from him. After the Bears drafted Urlacher in 2000, the Bears have only drafted 6 players in the first I would take over Janikowski. Four of those were in the last 5 years. Of course it is in retrospect, but that is still a pretty crazy point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 18 year starter is worth whatever pick you spent on a player. Incredible career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongKong Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Remember when he date raped himself? The good olé days. Fattykowski turned out better than all of us thought at the time. 18 year productive starter is amazing at any position. But seriously google it. Dude date raped himself. It's worth a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 One of the most overrated players of his generation. A 1st round pick for an average to slightly above average kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Wow, I don’t understand the Jano hate. He was picked in the first (he didn’t ask for that), but was easily the best part of that team for over a decade while most teams struggle to find a long term answer at that position because they are cheap. Sounds like bitterness to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzane Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 hours ago, CP3MVP said: One of the most overrated players of his generation. A 1st round pick for an average to slightly above average kicker Well, one thing: Sea Bass has entered the pantheon of Placekickers With The Longest NFL Careers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Only selected to the Pro Bowl once. That's surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 It seems that the kickers of now are much better than the last generation. I looked at the Top 157 kickers of all time in terms of career FG% 25 of the Top 50 are active. This includes the Top 5, 7 of the Top 10, and 11 of the Top 15. Many others in the Top 50 are guys that became inactive/retired within the past few years. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/fg_perc_career.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 4:19 PM, freak_of_nature said: It seems that the kickers of now are much better than the last generation. I looked at the Top 157 kickers of all time in terms of career FG% 25 of the Top 50 are active. This includes the Top 5, 7 of the Top 10, and 11 of the Top 15. Many others in the Top 50 are guys that became inactive/retired within the past few years. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/fg_perc_career.htm Sports across the board are more professional than they've ever been, and are always improving in that regard. Practice routines and nutrition always improving is going to result in the current generation being stronger than the last for the average NFL player, basically. There might be freaks of nature who go against that trend in certain generations, but as an average, it makes sense that current players are more productive than retired ones were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderrocker18 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 there was a 2 year stretch where he was actually a great kicker, 2010-2011. in those 2 years he made 64/76 kicks, an 84% clip. i know that's nothing amazing, but 6 of those 12 misses were from 50+ (11-17 from 50+), and he only missed 1 from under 40 in those two years. other than that he was a maybe slightly above average kicker, but he was consistent. the raiders never really had to consider changing their kicker throughout his career, which is more than a lot of teams can say. overall his career is pretty much in line with a guy like jason hanson. but yeah, giorgio tavecchio has been a camp/preseason leg for us for a few years, kicked well there. looked decent enough last year. rather than riding seabass for another couple of seasons and having to start from scratch (which looks like a scary endeavor looking at the insane turnover around the league with kickers), giorgio looked good enough to be the guy, even if janikowski would be a bit better for a year or two (provided his back is fine). basically what happened with marquette king taking over for shane lechler (though King is a better punter than Giorgio is a kicker) i hope he does well somewhere in the NFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKTexans Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 That 70 yarder in practice though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billking Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I thought I was going to see history when Seabass attempted a 64 yarder against the Texans in Oakland, hit the upright halfway up the post.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 some decent kickers available this offseason. Caleb sturgis is an FA too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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