BayRaider Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Not getting the Wentz hate, dude is gonna ball out this year. This is not a 2016 Power Ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 23 hours ago, OleXmad said: Eli, Joe, Carson are way too high. None of them are top 10 QBs anymore I'm not sure they ever were... Palmer used to be number three back when he was in Cinci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: Not getting the Wentz hate, dude is gonna ball out this year. This is not a 2016 Power Ranking. Probably has a lot to do with his numbers last year. Over the final 12 games he posted a line of: 288-472, 61% completion rate, 5.87 yards per attempt, 9 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, 72.3 QB rating. In today's NFL, those are just truly bad numbers. Now obviously the excuses for the numbers exist, and shouldn't be ignored, but he hasn't shown enough at this point to be considered a top 15 quarterback in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, titans0021 said: Probably has a lot to do with his numbers last year. Over the final 12 games he posted a line of: 288-472, 61% completion rate, 5.87 yards per attempt, 9 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, 72.3 QB rating. In today's NFL, those are just truly bad numbers. Now obviously the excuses for the numbers exist, and shouldn't be ignored, but he hasn't shown enough at this point to be considered a top 15 quarterback in football. Yeah, it isn't a 2016 power ranking but 2016 is all we can go by for Wentz. Until he proves he is better than average (15th being above that plateau) he is ranked too high. You can't really say: 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: Not getting the Wentz hate, dude is gonna ball out this year. Because you could say that about Goff, Kevin Hogan or even Thomas5737. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'll try to do a list, nobody crucify me here: Tom Brady QB New England Patriots 2 Aaron Rodgers QB Green Bay Packers 3 Ben Roethlisberger QB Pittsburgh Steelers 4 Matt Ryan QB Atlanta Falcons 5 Andrew Luck QB Indianapolis Colts 6 Drew Brees QB New Orleans Saints 7 Philip Rivers QB Los Angeles Chargers 8 Eli Manning QB New York Giants 9 Matthew Stafford QB Detroit Lions 10 Derek Carr QB Oakland Raiders 11 Joe Flacco QB Baltimore Ravens 12 Russell Wilson QB Seattle Seahawks 13 Carson Palmer QB Arizona Cardinals 14 Cam Newton QB Carolina Panthers 15 Jameis Winston QB Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 Carson Wentz QB Philadelphia Eagles 17 Dak Prescott QB Dallas Cowboys 18 Sam Bradford QB Minnesota Vikings 19 Kirk Cousins QB Washington 20 Marcus Mariota QB Tennessee Titans 21 Andy Dalton QB Cincinnati Bengals 22 Ryan Tannehill QB Miami Dolphins 23 Alex Smith QB Kansas City Chiefs Something Roughly along these lines for me: 1.Brady 2.Rodgers 3.Brees 4.Ryan 5.Ben 6.Wilson 7.Luck 8.Carr 9.Rivers 10.Stafford 11.Cam 12.Cousins 13.Prescott 14.Mariota 15.Palmer 16.Winston 17.Tanehill 18.Dalton 19.Bradford 20.Alex Smith 21.Eli 22.Flacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I'll try to do a list, nobody crucify me here: I'm gonna need you to gather a couple 4"X8" boards. Not a bad list. Ryan is a little high, another year like last year and he'll deserve that spot. Rivers had a rough year but I'd move him up a few spots. Everything else imo is close enough that it isn't worth mentioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: I'm gonna need you to gather a couple 4"X8" boards. Not a bad list. Ryan is a little high, another year like last year and he'll deserve that spot. Rivers had a rough year but I'd move him up a few spots. Everything else imo is close enough that it isn't worth mentioning. It's a bit reactionary, but I kinda made it based on last year and where I think they're going. If I didn't, Ryan would be lower and Rivers would be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imani Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I think Wilson is a bit high, as amazing as he is, and as much as our line holds him back.....I still need to see his accuracy improve before I feel like he's top 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imani Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 On 8/4/2017 at 5:28 PM, titans0021 said: 13 is right around where I would put Marcus. Right in that group with Prescott and Winston makes sense. Wentz is too high for my liking and should, at the very least, be below Cousins at this point in their careers. Though, compared to the MMQB list, it's actually not as bad as I'd expect for WalterFootball. And just to post the MMQB list, for comparison's sake (only 23 deep, but that's survivable): 1 Tom Brady QB New England Patriots 2 Aaron Rodgers QB Green Bay Packers 3 Ben Roethlisberger QB Pittsburgh Steelers 4 Matt Ryan QB Atlanta Falcons 5 Andrew Luck QB Indianapolis Colts 6 Drew Brees QB New Orleans Saints 7 Philip Rivers QB Los Angeles Chargers 8 Eli Manning QB New York Giants 9 Matthew Stafford QB Detroit Lions 10 Derek Carr QB Oakland Raiders 11 Joe Flacco QB Baltimore Ravens 12 Russell Wilson QB Seattle Seahawks 13 Carson Palmer QB Arizona Cardinals 14 Cam Newton QB Carolina Panthers 15 Jameis Winston QB Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 Carson Wentz QB Philadelphia Eagles 17 Dak Prescott QB Dallas Cowboys 18 Sam Bradford QB Minnesota Vikings 19 Kirk Cousins QB Washington 20 Marcus Mariota QB Tennessee Titans 21 Andy Dalton QB Cincinnati Bengals 22 Ryan Tannehill QB Miami Dolphins 23 Alex Smith QB Kansas City Chiefs Eli, Luck, Flacco and Stanford over Wilson? Not sure how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 For me: The Two Greatest although two very different QBs: 1) Aaron Rodgers 2) Tom Brady The Elites: 3) Matt Ryan Sure.. ranking Ryan is tough.. one great season but if that continues at all he is without question #3. Although he could fall back to earth like Newton did and be anywhere from 8-15 this season. Like I said.. tough guy to rank. 4) Russell Wilson This guy can do everything and had a historically good 2015 season. Worst O Line in the NFL last year. Now it seems he's super underrated. 5) Drew Brees One of the GOATs 6) Ben Roethlisberger Dude is gonna win MVP if he ever plays 16 games.. The Rest: 7) Andrew Luck 8) Derek Carr 9) Philip Rivers 10) Matt Stafford Honestly like 11-16 is hard to rank between Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton, Kirk Cousins, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, and Carson Palmer. We haven't seen enough of Mariota, Winston, or Prescott and Palmer and Eli are the kind of QBs who could have a Top 5 season or Bottom 10 season. They are both unpredictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 This list is based on an individuals projection, not the QBs resumes to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Honestly, right now it feels to me like there's basically a group of 3: Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben. Then a big whack of at least a dozen guys who i could see reasonable arguments for in all sorts of different order. Then a handful of "adequate" guys. Then a whack of guys that just aren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Not gonna lie, reading the names of guys behind Carson Wentz make me lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'll be the 1st person to say if Ryans O'line doesn't perform even close to it did last year he will go back to the 8 to 10 range. Ryan has NEVER had a decent O-line until last year and Alex Mack was by far the Falcons best pickup of the offseason. To me this is the real Matt Ryan if you give him a solid to above avg O-line. I have said it many of times i would give up our elite Skill position players up for a good O-line and good defense. When Julio went down last year Ryan out up some of his best performances of the year because the O-line did it's job. Ryan is alot like Manning in he is a really good timing route thrower and deadly accurate plus his intelligence is off the charts at the position. Good enough strength and mobility to get the job done when need be on big throws or scrambles. If you give him a good offensive line and atleast solid skill position players like Brady gets i think he stays in the top 5 most the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I like Russell Wilson, but he gets overrated way too much on here. He is a very good QB....but he is very streaky. The people that love him focus too much on the hot streaks and the people that hate him focus on the not so hot streaks. In general, I believe he is a top 10 QB....but top 3? You know what, its just easier to say WalterFootball is a joke. At least its not referenced on here all the time like PFF is, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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