squire12 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheBitzMan said: I never said he was better per say. My argument is/was that Fackrell has had more than enough chances to prove anything. Gilbert should've been on the field more for us to know what he is. For whatever reason he was never given that opportunity. The GB coaching staff sees these players every day in practice. Gilbert had opportunities to show what he can do to those individuals. The person in your avatar knew that concept as well as anyone....seems a bit ironic you feel differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Donzo said: Really? They both played the last two games. Gilbert had one tackle- 1... Fackrell had five tackles and a sack in those two games. What did the players "realize" after that? Don't know where you got your stats from? Week 17 v. Detroit, Gilbert had a sack and 2 tackles. Fackrell had 2 tackles. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201712310det.htm Fackrell also played in 26 regular season games before that. All I am saying is Fackrell should not be on the field over guys with potential. You guys obviously have opposing views which is perfectly fine. If Pettine can fix him, more power to him. That would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: The GB coaching staff sees these players every day in practice. Gilbert had opportunities to show what he can do to those individuals. The person in your avatar knew that concept as well as anyone....seems a bit ironic you feel differently. Although I agree with this take as well some players are just better game day than they are in practice. I do think their should be absolutely no safe positions in this OLB group. Anyone from Perry on down should be replaceable if the talent is somehow better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: The GB coaching staff sees these players every day in practice. Gilbert had opportunities to show what he can do to those individuals. The person in your avatar knew that concept as well as anyone....seems a bit ironic you feel differently. And the coaching staff made a mistake IMO. Fackrell was a premium pick ,they gave him his opportunities and now I think it's time for someone else to play. What is so crazy about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, TheBitzMan said: And the coaching staff made a mistake IMO. Fackrell was a premium pick ,they gave him his opportunities and now I think it's time for someone else to play. What is so crazy about that? Nothing crazy about it, actually. If they draft someone to compete for his job, and subsequently beat him out and replace him, then I’m totally on board. That’s the way it should work. If they don’t think Fackrell is a liability and they don’t draft to replace him, then let’s just hope he makes a significant jump this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 8 hours ago, TheBitzMan said: And the coaching staff made a mistake IMO. Fackrell was a premium pick ,they gave him his opportunities and now I think it's time for someone else to play. What is so crazy about that? Calling a 3rd round pick a premium pick is extremely generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Calling a 3rd round pick a premium pick is extremely generous. What if I'm the GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Calling a 3rd round pick a premium pick is extremely generous. You still expect more out of that pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 15 hours ago, CWood21 said: Calling a 3rd round pick a premium pick is extremely generous. I think we can get a WR that can be used this year. Maybe even start. That's premium enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 15 hours ago, CWood21 said: Calling a 3rd round pick a premium pick is extremely generous. I agree, I was more referencing it being a top 100 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Trace Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/8384-mike-pettine-defense/?do=findComment&comment=734075 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/25/2018 at 8:34 PM, cannondale said: I think we can get a WR that can be used this year. Maybe even start. That's premium enough for me The only way a rookie WR is going to start game one for this offense is if he has Megatron or Julio Jones type talent. I don't see that in this draft class much less the third round. If history is any indicator it's going to take two or three seasons for a WR to develop in our offense. It's doubtful a rookie would contribute more than the guys already there this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Apex said: The only way a rookie WR is going to start game one for this offense is if he has Megatron or Julio Jones type talent. I don't see that in this draft class much less the third round. If history is any indicator it's going to take two or three seasons for a WR to develop in our offense. It's doubtful a rookie would contribute more than the guys already there this year. History is no indicator. The room has been deeper and some guys have earned plenty of rookie reps if they can digest the playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 11 hours ago, spilltray said: History is no indicator. If you say so. Seems to me that between learning McCarthys offense and getting on the same page and gaining ARod's trust takes a season or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Ty Montgomery and Richard Rodgers got plenty of early reps because they could handle it. Just two easy examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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