Slateman Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 5 hours ago, GmenSeattle said: What exactly is the love for Archer again? 3+ years of a 4+ ERA with that home park and generally solid defense behind him? Just because he's cheap(ish)? 5 hours ago, JammerHammer21 said: 3-4 win pitcher that's pretty cheap through 2021. But yeah, he's really not worth what the Rays will want for him at all. He's being treated like an ace, but he's about to be 30. He pretty much is what he is, even if he has good stuff. Archer is somewhat overrated because of 2015. He's basically a two pitch pitcher that's a number 2 in a decent rotation and a number 3 in a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 So Bowden is reporting that the Marlins said no to Robles and Keiboom for Realmuto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 7 hours ago, GmenSeattle said: What exactly is the love for Archer again? 3+ years of a 4+ ERA with that home park and generally solid defense behind him? Just because he's cheap(ish)? uh... he struck out over 11 per nine in 200 innings last year, if youre going by era only youre doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 8 hours ago, devils1854 said: Under contact for three years. Two options after next year. Braves are very interested in him, and I wouldnt be surprised if a deal is struck. The Braves showcased Gohara today in AAA and he pitched very well. wonder if gohara/wentz/allard/cumberland or jackson gets it done. Thats a top 50 guy, two guys prob just outsid ethe top 100 but have legit upside if you could figure out how to fix them and a lottery ticket catcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Slateman said: So Bowden is reporting that the Marlins said no to Robles and Keiboom for Realmuto. The Marlins are very, very silly if this is true (but also if it's not tbh). The only rationale I can think of is that they already have Brinson and aren't focused on actually getting value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils1854 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 hours ago, GSUeagles14 said: wonder if gohara/wentz/allard/cumberland or jackson gets it done. Thats a top 50 guy, two guys prob just outsid ethe top 100 but have legit upside if you could figure out how to fix them and a lottery ticket catcher. Nothing to fix with Wentz or Allard, and that trade would be a no. If Atlanta gets Archer, a good position player is going to be given up, along with a top pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 If i'm a team dealing with the Braves for any significant player, I insist on Ian Anderson as the pitcher coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, devils1854 said: Nothing to fix with Wentz or Allard, and that trade would be a no. If Atlanta gets Archer, a good position player is going to be given up, along with a top pitcher. allard lost his velo and wentz also has reports of his velo being down, and hes not striking anyone out. if you really think theres nothing to fix then that drops their value considerably. youre too slow to adjust to guys you were high on. and maybe the insist on a positional guy, but they are pretty loaded there tbh. having both allard and wentz weakens the offer though, prob woukd have to have a 2nd higher upside arm like anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 5 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: The Marlins are very, very silly if this is true (but also if it's not tbh). The only rationale I can think of is that they already have Brinson and aren't focused on actually getting value. So, clarification, it was Spencer Keiboom, the backup catcher, not his brother, the top 100 prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Slateman said: So, clarification, it was Spencer Keiboom, the backup catcher, not his brother, the top 100 prospect. Ahhh that changes this at little bit. tbh they should still take Robles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Ahhh that changes this at little bit. tbh they should still take Robles. Maybe. Finding a catcher who can hit like that is really rare. The Marlins might be thinking they have leverage until after next season's deadline. But Realmuto is worth a 60+ prospect and other good parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Giants are willing to listen to offers on Cutch. His season stats don't look great, but some advanced stats would suggest he's been unlucky. He has the highest line drive rate (25.3%) and highest hard hit percentage (45.5%, which pretty much crushes his second highest of 40%) of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 not sure I like this for the pirates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 13 hours ago, GmenSeattle said: What exactly is the love for Archer again? 3+ years of a 4+ ERA with that home park and generally solid defense behind him? Just because he's cheap(ish)? I asked same question and got this.... Quote For Archer's career, he's thrown 48% of his pitches against teams in the AL East. Here are his splits for different metrics ALE vs Rest: ERA: 4.02 / 3.40 wOBA: .311/.293 K-BB% 17% / 20% HR/9: 1.12 / 0.88 SwSTR%: 11.8 / 13.5 Chase%: 26.9/29.5 Needs a relocation. Doesn't tell the whole story, but seems a prime time for a relocation. That said, I'm still not sure I want him. All depends on the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, August4th said: not sure I like this for the pirates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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