patriotsheatyan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 What do you think? Was he a victim of his own success by overachieving by so much in 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Jack Del Rio is/was alot like Jeff Fisher as a head coach. I refer to coaches like this as "training wheel coaches". I think they can help take a team from terrible to solid, but they arent good enough to get teams over the hump IMO. However, I think they made a mistake getting rid of him in favor of a guy who proved the game passed him by in his last stint as a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Sometimes an owner vastly overvalues the makeup of his team and needs a scapegoat to say "it's not the team, it's this one coach whose messing it all up". Del Rio because he overachieved one season with Carr overinflated the teams opinion of itself. Carr had a break out year but was still forming as a QB even though he helped cover up some flaws. Then he got injured at a critical time in his development. The team didn't take that into account and thought he should have been able to just get right back on track. They found a scapegoat in Del Rio and saw a shiny Gruden as the answer. Gruden's hype was a complete con job by the sports media. He was very fortunate to win that one SB he did with someone else's team and there's a reason he was booted from the Raiders the first time and why Tampa gave up on him. He also spent way too much time out of the league. Pure stupidity/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Are you kidding? Yes. Absolutely yes. Wow. Gruden has been terrible so far but wow. #NFLGen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I would’ve liked to see JDR with a good OC and DC, but his fire was a justifiable one for sure IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He deserved to be fired after his terrible coordinating hires and mismanagement of the defense. He was definitely fired in favor of getting Gruden though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, FourThreeMafia said: Jack Del Rio is/was alot like Jeff Fisher as a head coach. I refer to coaches like this as "training wheel coaches". I think they can help take a team from terrible to solid, but they arent good enough to get teams over the hump IMO. However, I think they made a mistake getting rid of him in favor of a guy who proved the game passed him by in his last stint as a head coach. I don't even think you could say that about Jeff Fisher anymore. He brought the Rams from terrible to mediocre, and by the end of his tenure they were pretty terrible again. But I agree with the point about Del Rio. However, I don't think Gruden is the answer for them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bolts223 said: I don't even think you could say that about Jeff Fisher anymore. He brought the Rams from terrible to mediocre, and by the end of his tenure they were pretty terrible again. But I agree with the point about Del Rio. However, I don't think Gruden is the answer for them either. I can agree with that. He gained more Talent, but the team went backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Jack Del Rio is a terrible head coach. He’s good at getting you to the playoffs every once in a while but that’s about it. Ask Jags fans. We needed someone with experience to change our culture, Del Rio was that guy. We all knew it wasn’t a long term solution. We just needed to taste winning again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Worst thing to happen to Raiders was going 12-4 in 2016. If they had sucked in 2016, they could have gone after McVay or even Shanahan (granted, that might be a stretch giving his father's history with the team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodisrespect Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Del Rio mismanaged his coaches, losing Musgrave in a ego battle shined a light on his biggest blemish of not improving the Raiders defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: Jack Del Rio is a terrible head coach. He’s good at getting you to the playoffs every once in a while but that’s about it. Ask Jags fans. We needed someone with experience to change our culture, Del Rio was that guy. We all knew it wasn’t a long term solution. We just needed to taste winning again. I don't know that I'd call Del Rio a terrible head coach. Just a very, very mediocre one. He's not on the level of the guys that burn out in 3 years and never field a winning record, but he's not on the level of the guys who constantly win. Won't hold you back much but won't drive you forward much. Honestly, I think the team would be better right now with Del Rio. Maybe not long term, but I don't think they start this poorly if not for Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 JDR was a 9 to 5 head coach, enough said on how bad he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Only reason JDR didnt look worse as a HC was cause he replaced Dennis Allen, who is the worst HC in our team's history imo. JDR was atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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