Gmen Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I know that not everyone is into fantasy football, but I think "Actual Draft Position" ADP is a pretty good barometer of how fans view players. There are plenty of hot takes on Daniel Jones, but when it's time to put money on the line, they seem to like Jones. Jones' current ADP among QBs is #15th, and he's owned in 78% of leagues. Haskins current ADP is 31st, and he's owned in 12% of leagues. (Just an FYI @HTTRDynasty, don't spend a pick on him in your leagues. He'll be available after the draft) https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/qb-cheatsheets.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Yikes. What an idiotic take. Winston was the same ADP as Jones last year - now he's a backup QB making $1.1 million. Fantasy doesn't care about QB skill, they care about QB volume stats. I shouldn't have to convince a non-casual fan that there's a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Not to mention the aforementioned lack of weapons Haskins has compared to Jones. That obviously factors heavily into fantasy projections. Just an all-around terrible post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Yikes. What an idiotic take. Winston was the same ADP as Jones last year - now he's a backup QB making $1.1 million. Fantasy doesn't care about QB skill, they care about QB volume stats. I shouldn't have to convince a non-casual fan that there's a huge difference. They don't even trust Haskins to get volume stats. I guess 7 TDs and 7 INTs is uninspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Gmen said: They don't even trust Haskins to get volume stats. I guess 7 TDs and 7 INTs is uninspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Cool. I put as much value in his opinion as anyone else's. Same guy that justified the Bears trading up for Trubisky and said "I had Mahomes pegged as a fourth round talent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gmen said: Cool. I put as much value in his opinion as anyone else's. Same guy that justified the Bears trading up for Trubisky and said "I had Mahomes pegged as a fourth round talent". Can you prove that he's not Winston 2.0? It's hard to unsee. Everyone is wrong occasionally, but this was my take on Jones as well earlier this offseason before Kollman even thought about the comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, HTTRDynasty said: Can you prove that he's not Winston 2.0? It's hard to unsee. Everyone is wrong occasionally, but this was my take on Jones as well earlier this offseason before Kollman even thought about the comparison. The burden of proof is not on me. But I don't see the comparison. Daniel Jones is far more careful passer than Winston, and that's part of the reason why he had so many fumbles. He has better touch. He's more accurate. He's way more athletic. I think the closest comparison is Ryan Tannehill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gmen said: The burden of proof is not on me. But I don't see the comparison. Daniel Jones is far more careful passer than Winston, and that's part of the reason why he had so many fumbles. He has better touch. He's more accurate. He's way more athletic. I think the closest comparison is Ryan Tannehill. Just because they didn't have the same number of interceptions doesn't mean Jones is a far more careful passer. Jone's adjusted interception rate was 6th worst in the league. Winston also has fumbling issues - he has 3 seasons with double-digit fumbles in his 5 year career. They both struggle noticeably in reading zone defenses. They are high-variance players that will look like a top 10 QB one game and a bottom 5 QB then next. Coaches can't trust that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Ah Haskins v Jones The Battle of Who Could Care Less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Ah Haskins v Jones The Battle of Who Couldn't Care Less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gmen said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Ah Haskins v Jones The Battle of Who Could Care Less The NFL equivalent of Ja Rule vs Bubba Sparxxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Jeezla said: The NFL equivalent of Ja Rule vs Bubba Sparxxx Has either had a game or even a throw good enough to get them to the level of Bubba Sparxxx on the Madden 04 soundtrack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So the Redskins big news about changing their name, was an official statement today, We are changing our name? Gotta love Snyder! Milk the 💩 out of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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