candyman93 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, Tomahawk said: Sorry, but luck doesn't win championships. Are there bad calls, and lucky breaks? Sure. But you don't become a perennial playoff contender through luck. Perennial playoff contender isn’t the same as a champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, candyman93 said: Perennial playoff contender isn’t the same as a champion. While Tayne can understand both sides of this conversation, it's pretty easy to point out Tom Brady showing that it is clearly not all about luck, as he keeps going back. There are superstars like Michael Jordan who keep going back to the championship. Edited May 30, 2019 by NudeTayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 My original point about luck was on throws in tight windows that barely avoid a defensive players outstretched hand. It is a skillful throw but if the defender had 1" more reach, which I doubt is calculated on every Mayfield pass, then it results in a good defensive play. You have to be good to complete those passes 50% of the time but you'll need luck to do better than that I'd guess. There is luck in every play. Obviously over a full season one lucky win or unlucky loss isn't going to change much. Just like luck on one play likely isn't going to change the outcome of a game, it can but most times won't. Mosley was lucky that he got stonewalled at the line and opted to jump back into a passing lane. Everyone else ran straight through the line so the Browns were unlucky that one guy was blocked. You can't win a game because of luck (unless you're the Colts) but it can change the outcome of a close game that you competed well in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: You can't win a game because of luck (unless you're the Colts) 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 hours ago, candyman93 said: Perennial playoff contender isn’t the same as a champion. Otto Graham was a 7 time champion. Tom Brady is a 6 time champion. Joe Montana is a 4 time champion. Troy Aikman is a 3 time champion. Luck won all of those championships? Sorry but chance isn't what wins championships. Again, Im not saying there aren't bad calls, or "lucky" bounces of the ball. But championships are won with skill and preparation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: What is impressive wiith Baker is that his a+ accurate throws happen at an enormous rate like 15-20%. And often when he is on the move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Tomahawk said: Sorry, but luck doesn't win championships. Are there bad calls, and lucky breaks? Sure. But you don't become a perennial playoff contender through luck. Or without it if you do not give 100% effort. Seneca; “Luck is what you have left over after you give 100 percent.” Just give me 100%, baby, and luck will take care of the rest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, bruceb said: And often when he is on the move. His accuracy is breathing taking. More Roger's than favre 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks1957 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 6:15 PM, Fatgerman said: Daaaaang! That was a heck of a throw and catch! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Tuesday is mandatory camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Tuesday is mandatory camp. What on earth will the Negative Nancy’s have to write about when OBJ is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks1957 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 13 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What on earth will the Negative Nancy’s have to write about when OBJ is there? That he farted with his left leg in the air instead of the correct procedure of the right in the air............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 13 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What on earth will the Negative Nancy’s have to write about when OBJ is there? Tony Grossi will find something. He’s awful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Tony Grossi will find something. He’s awful. He always does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 The next 2 months are going to be a grind until preseason starts. My body is ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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