plan9misfit Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: I must say, you and I just do not live in the same universe when it comes to this topic. I know. And, you know that I respect your opinion. I may not agree with it, but I respect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Basically MY TAKE.... OTHER THEN RB... if you have a talent that is then top 10 at his position YOU PAY HIM>>>> Dak top ten easy, I say top 5 pay him... ZEKE RB.. NO... JONES... NO.. paying him top 5 made no sense as he wasn't close to that good. Jaylon... on the edge. was not top 10 but we did not pay him top money either he is around the 32nd highest in 2020 close to 26th in 2021 .. over paid by a mile based on 2020 not based on 2018. Also.... IF YOU HAVE A TOP 10-15 QB then DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO TOO KEEP HIM>>>> IT just amazes me that so many people are complaining about NOT RESIGNING JONES..... He was talented by NOT even close to demand the type of salary he got from MIAMI... he is a top 40 CB in football if that. Not pro-bowl level and can be replaced easily in the draft or FA with out breaking bank. this is the type of signing that makes no sense. People say, look spending top 5-10 money on DAK is wrong because then we can't spend TOP 5 money on a average CB, say what... Edited February 19, 2021 by quiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Ive said it before, I’ll say it again. We need to end this saga now. Put the Non Exclusive Franchise Tag on him and let him negotiate with any team. If he signs an offer sheet, match it or take the 2 first round picks! Plain and simple. Let Dak and his agent do the work. If he thinks his market is as high as he wants, let him find out. We can’t move forward without this situation resolved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 9 hours ago, textaz03 said: Ive said it before, I’ll say it again. We need to end this saga now. Put the Non Exclusive Franchise Tag on him and let him negotiate with any team. If he signs an offer sheet, match it or take the 2 first round picks! Plain and simple. Let Dak and his agent do the work. If he thinks his market is as high as he wants, let him find out. We can’t move forward without this situation resolved. I’ll say it again, you can give him the freedom to do all of those things on the exclusive tag, while retaining the right to veto certain destinations (WFT) and demanding more in a trade from teams with low 1st rounders (NO). Non-exclusive tag does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 9 hours ago, textaz03 said: Ive said it before, I’ll say it again. We need to end this saga now. Put the Non Exclusive Franchise Tag on him and let him negotiate with any team. If he signs an offer sheet, match it or take the 2 first round picks! Plain and simple. Let Dak and his agent do the work. If he thinks his market is as high as he wants, let him find out. We can’t move forward without this situation resolved. I’d do the same thing but with the exclusive tag for the sole purpose of being able to better control where he lands in the hope of getting better draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, plan9misfit said: I’d do the same thing but with the exclusive tag for the sole purpose of being able to better control where he lands in the hope of getting better draft picks. Ding, ding, ding! Whether you want to re-sign Dak or move on, the exclusive tag is the only way to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Ding, ding, ding! Whether you want to re-sign Dak or move on, the exclusive tag is the only way to go. Wrong. But limiting where he goes, you limit the market and negotiating power. No team is going to give up quality picks for a one year rental. By limiting access to Dak, you limit the market entirely. By putting the non exclusive tag on him, we invite everyone. Dak finds out what his market value is and whose willing to pay it. It lets him decide what he really wants. Does he really want to be a cowboy or does he really want the extra money. Either way, Dallas is 100% protected. We can match the offer or take the picks. By using the exclusive tag we run a strong risk of losing Dak for a third round compensatory pick if Dak decides he really wants to maximize his value... something he will never know if Jerry gets to decide who he can and can’t negotiate with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Has anyone done the math that shows just what the franchise has to do money wise to even afford the second tag under the cap. Either way I think if the team wants Dak there needs to be 40 plus free, closer to 50 if we want to tag dak. We have 23 M or so... draft king seems to say of we restructure DLaw we can gain around 12. Cut OT Smith and LB Smith to add about 25-30 M. That gives us around 40 which we need if we do a deal back loaded correctly. Thus when the big money hits we no longer have the coop or Zeke's contracts. or we also can save around 15 M trading Cooper rather then cutting both Smiths... I don't know what we save cutting OT Collins rather OT Smith ... Edited February 21, 2021 by quiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 hours ago, The_Slamman said: Wrong. But limiting where he goes, you limit the market and negotiating power. No team is going to give up quality picks for a one year rental. By limiting access to Dak, you limit the market entirely. By putting the non exclusive tag on him, we invite everyone. Dak finds out what his market value is and whose willing to pay it. It lets him decide what he really wants. Does he really want to be a cowboy or does he really want the extra money. Either way, Dallas is 100% protected. We can match the offer or take the picks. By using the exclusive tag we run a strong risk of losing Dak for a third round compensatory pick if Dak decides he really wants to maximize his value... something he will never know if Jerry gets to decide who he can and can’t negotiate with. I’m not sure why this is hard to understand, but you can quite literally give him the freedom to go seek trades and negotiate agreements just as he could with the non-exclusive, while also opening up the market for teams who might not want to give up picks but have good players to trade (I.e. Deshaun Watson, Russel Wilson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 The clock is now ticking! As of 4pm Eastern the Franchise / Transition Tag window has officially opened. The Cowboys now have until 4pm March 9th to either work out a contract for Dak or give him the Tag (again). That’s 14 days to get this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romo2bryant Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 4 options Wilson for Dak Watson for Dak Dak to Miami for Tua + however many firsts Sign Dak any of these 4 would be fine by me, if we let him walk for nothing, MAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, romo2bryant said: 4 options Wilson for Dak Watson for Dak Dak to Miami for Tua + however many firsts Sign Dak any of these 4 would be fine by me, if we let him walk for nothing, MAN. I highly doubt that we could trade for either Wilson or Watson straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CAPJ Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, D82 said: Dak is better than what most on here give him credit for but I wouldn't call him top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, CAPJ said: Dak is better than what most on here give him credit for but I wouldn't call him top 5. He’s certainly in a tier with a few other guys in the debate for #4 or #5. And you are really probably splitting hairs among that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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