plan9misfit Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, TVScout said: He will probably be gone too. I would rather pick Hurts. Good God, no. No Jaylon Hurts. His accuracy is worse than what we currently have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 lol. Just stop while you’re ahead. Dallas isn’t using a high pick to select a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Good God, no. No Jaylon Hurts. His accuracy is worse than what we currently have. At Bama he was. At OU he improved vastly. Kiper predicts he will be a 4th rounder. I would pick him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: lol. Just stop while you’re ahead. Dallas isn’t using a high pick to select a QB. You don't even know who the 2020 HC is going to be. Where exactly we will be drafting, or who will be available. Dak hasn't signed a contract and you'd have to think Jerry will need to find a new coach before he does. I tend to agree that we won't spend a 1st on QB seeing that it hasn't happened since 1989, but it's not crazy to see the team tagging Dak and drafting a guy like Fromm in the 2nd or 3rd. Or letting Dak walk and signing a Winston/Tannehill for 1/2 the cost. We are picking top 15 because we aren't a good football team. Everything is on the table now sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, DaBoys said: You don't even know who the 2020 HC is going to be. Where exactly we will be drafting, or who will be available. Dak hasn't signed a contract and you'd have to think Jerry will need to find a new coach before he does. I tend to agree that we won't spend a 1st on QB seeing that it hasn't happened since 1989, but it's not crazy to see the team tagging Dak and drafting a guy like Fromm in the 2nd or 3rd. Or letting Dak walk and signing a Winston/Tannehill for 1/2 the cost. We are picking top 15 because we aren't a good football team. Everything is on the table now sir. Watch Jerry hire Lincoln who will draft Hurt then trade Dak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, quiller said: Well I will believe just recycling a rook is a good idea when I see a 1st - 2nd Or maybe even 3rd year QB win a super bowl I guess the Balt QB has a good chance this year to do just that so who knows Really? A QB needs to win the superbowl before they are a better option than Dak who has never made it past the divisional? Dak is a fine QB on his rookie deal, but not at highest paid in league history. The last 2 Most Valuable Players of the National Football League are first year starters in Lamar and Mahomes. Mahomes was narrowly beat in the conference champioinship by the eventual SB champs, and the NFC champion last year was a QB from Daks draft class. It's not 1990 anymore guys. Young QBs are doing it in a league that's increasingly becoming a glorified 7 on 7 match. Hell they call holding, roughing, and PI in the pros more than in college. Edited December 23, 2019 by DaBoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, TVScout said: At Bama he was. At OU he improved vastly. Kiper predicts he will be a 4th rounder. I would pick him there. Again, no. If we’re truly looking for legitimate competition and a future franchise QB, then waiting until the 4th round is absolutely pointless. Edited December 23, 2019 by plan9misfit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 One thing is for sure. Dak should have taken a deal while he was scorching hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, DaBoys said: You don't even know who the 2020 HC is going to be. Where exactly we will be drafting, or who will be available. Dak hasn't signed a contract and you'd have to think Jerry will need to find a new coach before he does. I tend to agree that we won't spend a 1st on QB seeing that it hasn't happened since 1989, but it's not crazy to see the team tagging Dak and drafting a guy like Fromm in the 2nd or 3rd. Or letting Dak walk and signing a Winston/Tannehill for 1/2 the cost. We are picking top 15 because we aren't a good football team. Everything is on the table now sir. This is like an intervention. I'm trying to help you...... Dallas will have a new HC. Dak is going to be re-signed for a substantial amount of money. Dallas is not using a high draft pick to select a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Calvert28 said: One thing is for sure. Dak should have taken a deal while he was scorching hot. I’m sure glad that he didn’t. Because his play this season - by and large - has shown that he still can’t put a team on his back and win, can’t make accurate throws consistently, and doesn’t perform well in the 2nd and 3rd quarter. Yes, a large portion of that is Garrett being an incompetent coach, but his shortcomings as a QB are still very obvious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: This is like an intervention. I'm trying to help you...... With all due respect, sir you haven't exactly been on point with your "this is how it's gonna be," contract predictions. I've been listening to guys like you, Matts, and NYFTB tell me that we are about to get the breaking news tweet on Daks big contract any minute now, for nearly a year. You guys thought he would sign at the end of last year, and all throughout the off season. You were to be stunned if he played a game this year without a new deal. Now this year is over. I think at this point a franchise tag is the most likely outcome, especially since we get two of them, but if we do sign Dak long term it's not the end of the world. He has progressed a ton in my eyes. I just think the QB market is out of control. Guys are getting paid like it's becoming impossible to find a solid starter. When in reality it's never before been easier. The market doesn't match the trend. 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: Dallas will have a new HC. Good. 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: Dak is going to be re-signed for a substantial amount of money. Right. And he's going to do it 9 months ago. And he'll get it before DLaw, and Jaylon, and Collins, and Dallas won't pay Zeke $15m. 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: Dallas is not using a high draft pick to select a QB. Even if this is true, it doesn't make it the right decision. The Patriots draft QBs with high picks, and trade them off. The Cardinals spent two first round picks in a row on QBs and that turned out to be a good decision. They still managed to get a season from Rosen, and still traded him for a 2nd. QBs have best in class resale value, and good teams draft them early annually. But you are correct that we are not a well run franchise and will probably make poor decisions like ignoring early round QBs for 30 years. Edited December 23, 2019 by DaBoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Serious Question: Would you rather have Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson going forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7188 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, DaBoys said: With all due respect, sir you haven't exactly been on point with your "this is how it's gonna be," contract predictions. I've been listening to guys like you, Matts, and NYFTB tell me that we are about to get the breaking news tweet on Daks big contract any minute now, for nearly a year. You guys thought he would sign at the end of last year, and all throughout the off season. You were to be stunned if he played a game this year without a new deal. Now this year is over. I think at this point a franchise tag is the most likely outcome, especially since we get two of them, but if we do sign Dak long term it's not the end of the world. He has progressed a ton in my eyes. I just think the QB market is out of control. Guys are getting paid like it's becoming impossible to find a solid starter. When in reality it's never before been easier. The market doesn't match the trend. Good. Right. And he's going to do it 9 months ago. And he'll get it before DLaw, and Jaylon, and Collins, and Dallas won't pay Zeke $15m. Even if this is true, it doesn't make it the right decision. The Patriots draft QBs with high picks, and trade them off. The Cardinals spent two first round picks in a row on QBs and that turned out to be a good decision. They still managed to get a season from Rosen, and still traded him for a 2nd. QBs have best in class resale value, and good teams draft them early annually. But you are correct that we are not a well run franchise and will probably make poor decisions like ignoring early round QBs for 30 years. Man there was some great hot takes in that thread. Especially from NYFTB on Dak: “He’s either our franchise QB or isn’t. There is no middle ground where “oh, we’d like to re-sign him, but only if we can get our middle linebacker done first”” Well it sure looks like there is middle ground since the team signed their middle linebacker first! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7188 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Serious Question: Would you rather have Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson going forward? One player is about to win the MVP. When was the last time we had a QB for Dallas do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Serious Question: Would you rather have Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson going forward? Same $$? Because I'd take Dak at 20 million before I'd take Lamar at 45 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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