Mind Character Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Case Keenum is exactly the QB2 that we need. Highly competitive, knows the offense well, can compete to win a game if he has to play, no one thinks he's a franchise QB, and has been a back-up QB in a mentorship role before. He'll be inexpensive as well. He's perfect for what the next season will require. Cut ties with Drew Stanton and Garrett Gilbert then bring in a young developmental guy in the event that Baker ain't it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Mind Character said: Case Keenum is exactly the QB2 that we need. Highly competitive, knows the offense well, can compete to win a game if he has to play, no one thinks he's a franchise QB, and has been a back-up QB in a mentorship role before. He'll be inexpensive as well. He's perfect for what the next season will require. Cut ties with Drew Stanton and Garrett Gilbert then bring in a young developmental guy in the event that Baker ain't it. If we can get Keenum cheap, I’m all in. We need a vet who can push Baker. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I'd be fine with either Keenum or Mariota if they're cheap as a QB2 to push Baker. Both are consummate professionals, film geeks, and great locker room presence(s). TBH, I'd almost be ok, if the price was right, with Nick Foles for the same reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 For depth / potential starter purposes, I’m looking at Ashawn Robinson from Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Would love it if Stefanski could pluck some Minnesota guys like Anthony Harris. The other names are Trevor Simien, Jairus Wright, and Rashod Hill. https://withthefirstpick.com/2020/01/15/stefanski-linked-free-agents-alter-browns-2020-nfl-draft/4/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 27 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Would love it if Stefanski could pluck some Minnesota guys like Anthony Harris. The other names are Trevor Simien, Jairus Wright, and Rashod Hill. https://withthefirstpick.com/2020/01/15/stefanski-linked-free-agents-alter-browns-2020-nfl-draft/4/ Except for OLine, Harris is almost priority #1 for the team based on his likely contract projections relative his elite all-pro performance as measured by production analytics. He along with Jimmy Ward will be top Hybrid-Safety players (Ward more so of a box player) that can completely change the complexion of our defense and allow us to save the draft capital required to likely reach on on what amounts to be a non-productive Safety prospect. Jimmy Ward, Anthony Harris, Graham Glasgow, Case Keenum, and Joe Schobert are all signings that have the chance to provide winning synergies to the core of the roster without sending the team in to Salary Cap Crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, candyman93 said: Would love it if Stefanski could pluck some Minnesota guys like Anthony Harris. The other names are Trevor Simien, Jairus Wright, and Rashod Hill. https://withthefirstpick.com/2020/01/15/stefanski-linked-free-agents-alter-browns-2020-nfl-draft/4/ Yeah I want Harris. We have a huge hole there let’s make that happen we gotta cut Vernon too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Would love to get Anthony Harris,Conklin and hunter henry. Those 3 would go a long way in turning us around. Henry is a good blocker and pass catcher. We need our TEs to be able to block. Njoku is a glorified WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Don't see a free for all Mock off season thread so I'll put this in here. Exec/Coaches GM George Paton OC - Klint Kubiak & Gary Kubiak DC Joe Woods Paton and the Kubiak's have solid ties with Stefanski and could be persuaded to come on board. Klint would basically be the OC/QB coach with his father as OC assist and consultant. Woods would bring the Seahawks/Niners scheme over. ---------------------------------------- Cut/Walk S Damrious Randall LB Christian Kirksey S Morgan Burnett LB Adarius Taylor OT Kendall Lamm QB Drew Stanton Randall is a good FS but his character reeks of the bull**** Browns. If the market dries like it did last year I'd resign him for cheap if he wants to stay. Kirksey is the opposite. A great leader and character guy that just doesn't make an impact with his onfield play. ----------------------------------- Resign/Tender LB Joe Schobert OT Greg Robinson RB Kareem Hunt OG Justin McCray TE Ricky Seals Jones Schobert has steadily gotten better and is one of the best LB's in the league. If he ever gets competent run defending DT's in front his run grades will dramatically improve. Robinson isn't the bust he was earlier in his career although he's not exactly solid either. I think you could do worse though and I'd sign him back for a fair deal. RSJ is better than Njoku and I'd get him back for a full year. McCray can run block. -------------------------- Free Agency DT D.J. Reader OT Dennis Kelly OG Joe Haeg S Karl Joseph QB Nate Sudfeld Trying to go realistic here. I'm highly doubtful the top guys would sign here. That said, Reader is quietly a beast of a NT. Kelly and Haeg aren't stars upfront but they're pretty solid O Lineman. Joseph when he's healthy is a serious inside presence vs the run. Sudfeld is possibly the most underrated back up QB in the league imho, is relatively young, and has starter ability. Yes..it wouldn't surprise me in the least for him to outplay Baker at some point. ------------------------- DRAFT 1. ED K'Lavon Chaisson | LSU Chaisson is an extremely versatile edge guy that could play primarily in space like an Anthony Barr SAM or primarily put his hand down and be another T.J. Watt. He's a good coverage defender, flashes surprising power at the point of attack, and is a slippery pass rusher. 2. TE Cole Kmet | Notre Dame Njoku is done. Great guy but he's a terribly unreliable receiver and does nothing in the run game. Kmet's probably the #1 TE in this class and is a better prospect than Kyle Rudolph imo. If he's off the board, UCLA TE Devin Asiasi is nearly as talented. 3. DT Leki Fotu | Utah Fotu's a massive guy inside and a good athlete. He plays high too often but that's coachable. Likely a 5T DE in Woods' scheme. 3. S Myles Bryant | Washington He's Quandre Diggs. That's it. 4. RB Eno Benjamin | Arizona St He's a smaller Bills Devin Singletary but actually runs angrier. Fills need as a returner and depth RB...which could be a big need with Stefanski's run/pass %. 6. OT/OG Victor Johnson | Appalachian St Project for a zone based OL. He really fires out with quickness and animosity but lacks length and anchor strength in pass pro. 7. WR Joe Reed | Virginia There are bound to be some diamonds in this deep class and relative unknown Reed could be one of them. He's got great quickness and attacks the ball beautifully. 7. LB Dele Harding | Illinois Lacks athleticism but Harding made a ton of tackles last year for the Illini. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BrownLeader said: Don't see a free for all Mock off season thread so I'll put this in here. Exec/Coaches GM George Paton OC - Klint Kubiak & Gary Kubiak DC Joe Woods Paton and the Kubiak's have solid ties with Stefanski and could be persuaded to come on board. Klint would basically be the OC/QB coach with his father as OC assist and consultant. Woods would bring the Seahawks/Niners scheme over. ---------------------------------------- Cut/Walk S Damrious Randall LB Christian Kirksey S Morgan Burnett LB Adarius Taylor OT Kendall Lamm QB Drew Stanton Randall is a good FS but his character reeks of the bull**** Browns. If the market dries like it did last year I'd resign him for cheap if he wants to stay. Kirksey is the opposite. A great leader and character guy that just doesn't make an impact with his onfield play. ----------------------------------- Resign/Tender LB Joe Schobert OT Greg Robinson RB Kareem Hunt OG Justin McCray TE Ricky Seals Jones Schobert has steadily gotten better and is one of the best LB's in the league. If he ever gets competent run defending DT's in front his run grades will dramatically improve. Robinson isn't the bust he was earlier in his career although he's not exactly solid either. I think you could do worse though and I'd sign him back for a fair deal. RSJ is better than Njoku and I'd get him back for a full year. McCray can run block. -------------------------- Free Agency DT D.J. Reader OT Dennis Kelly OG Joe Haeg S Karl Joseph QB Nate Sudfeld Trying to go realistic here. I'm highly doubtful the top guys would sign here. That said, Reader is quietly a beast of a NT. Kelly and Haeg aren't stars upfront but they're pretty solid O Lineman. Joseph when he's healthy is a serious inside presence vs the run. Sudfeld is possibly the most underrated back up QB in the league imho, is relatively young, and has starter ability. Yes..it wouldn't surprise me in the least for him to outplay Baker at some point. ------------------------- DRAFT 1. ED K'Lavon Chaisson | LSU Chaisson is an extremely versatile edge guy that could play primarily in space like an Anthony Barr SAM or primarily put his hand down and be another T.J. Watt. He's a good coverage defender, flashes surprising power at the point of attack, and is a slippery pass rusher. 2. TE Cole Kmet | Notre Dame Njoku is done. Great guy but he's a terribly unreliable receiver and does nothing in the run game. Kmet's probably the #1 TE in this class and is a better prospect than Kyle Rudolph imo. If he's off the board, UCLA TE Devin Asiasi is nearly as talented. 3. DT Leki Fotu | Utah Fotu's a massive guy inside and a good athlete. He plays high too often but that's coachable. Likely a 5T DE in Woods' scheme. 3. S Myles Bryant | Washington He's Quandre Diggs. That's it. 4. RB Eno Benjamin | Arizona St He's a smaller Bills Devin Singletary but actually runs angrier. Fills need as a returner and depth RB...which could be a big need with Stefanski's run/pass %. 6. OT/OG Victor Johnson | Appalachian St Project for a zone based OL. He really fires out with quickness and animosity but lacks length and anchor strength in pass pro. 7. WR Joe Reed | Virginia There are bound to be some diamonds in this deep class and relative unknown Reed could be one of them. He's got great quickness and attacks the ball beautifully. 7. LB Dele Harding | Illinois Lacks athleticism but Harding made a ton of tackles last year for the Illini. Stopped reading after you didn’t cut/walk Baker Mayfield. Major fail, #amiright? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 It will be nice if we can bolster two key positions this well this OF: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/14/jamie-gillan-austin-seibert-pfwa-all-rookie-team/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 The nice thing about a fullback is that we won’t have to put so many scrub tight ends in plays now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, BrownLeader said: Don't see a free for all Mock off season thread so I'll put this in here. Exec/Coaches GM George Paton OC - Klint Kubiak & Gary Kubiak DC Joe Woods Paton and the Kubiak's have solid ties with Stefanski and could be persuaded to come on board. Klint would basically be the OC/QB coach with his father as OC assist and consultant. Woods would bring the Seahawks/Niners scheme over. ---------------------------------------- Cut/Walk S Damrious Randall LB Christian Kirksey S Morgan Burnett LB Adarius Taylor OT Kendall Lamm QB Drew Stanton Randall is a good FS but his character reeks of the bull**** Browns. If the market dries like it did last year I'd resign him for cheap if he wants to stay. Kirksey is the opposite. A great leader and character guy that just doesn't make an impact with his onfield play. ----------------------------------- Resign/Tender LB Joe Schobert OT Greg Robinson RB Kareem Hunt OG Justin McCray TE Ricky Seals Jones Schobert has steadily gotten better and is one of the best LB's in the league. If he ever gets competent run defending DT's in front his run grades will dramatically improve. Robinson isn't the bust he was earlier in his career although he's not exactly solid either. I think you could do worse though and I'd sign him back for a fair deal. RSJ is better than Njoku and I'd get him back for a full year. McCray can run block. -------------------------- Free Agency DT D.J. Reader OT Dennis Kelly OG Joe Haeg S Karl Joseph QB Nate Sudfeld Trying to go realistic here. I'm highly doubtful the top guys would sign here. That said, Reader is quietly a beast of a NT. Kelly and Haeg aren't stars upfront but they're pretty solid O Lineman. Joseph when he's healthy is a serious inside presence vs the run. Sudfeld is possibly the most underrated back up QB in the league imho, is relatively young, and has starter ability. Yes..it wouldn't surprise me in the least for him to outplay Baker at some point. ------------------------- DRAFT 1. ED K'Lavon Chaisson | LSU Chaisson is an extremely versatile edge guy that could play primarily in space like an Anthony Barr SAM or primarily put his hand down and be another T.J. Watt. He's a good coverage defender, flashes surprising power at the point of attack, and is a slippery pass rusher. 2. TE Cole Kmet | Notre Dame Njoku is done. Great guy but he's a terribly unreliable receiver and does nothing in the run game. Kmet's probably the #1 TE in this class and is a better prospect than Kyle Rudolph imo. If he's off the board, UCLA TE Devin Asiasi is nearly as talented. 3. DT Leki Fotu | Utah Fotu's a massive guy inside and a good athlete. He plays high too often but that's coachable. Likely a 5T DE in Woods' scheme. 3. S Myles Bryant | Washington He's Quandre Diggs. That's it. 4. RB Eno Benjamin | Arizona St He's a smaller Bills Devin Singletary but actually runs angrier. Fills need as a returner and depth RB...which could be a big need with Stefanski's run/pass %. 6. OT/OG Victor Johnson | Appalachian St Project for a zone based OL. He really fires out with quickness and animosity but lacks length and anchor strength in pass pro. 7. WR Joe Reed | Virginia There are bound to be some diamonds in this deep class and relative unknown Reed could be one of them. He's got great quickness and attacks the ball beautifully. 7. LB Dele Harding | Illinois Lacks athleticism but Harding made a ton of tackles last year for the Illini. ....... I like cole Kmet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Am I the only one who hasn't made up their mind about Schobert? Is there any way he's not getting like $17 million a season from somebody? I can see the argument with some better d-line play he won't be as much of a liability against the run, but he's just a cruddy tackler in general. Yet if we let him walk we are going to put a huge hole in our defense. Damned if you do damned you don't situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Am I the only one who hasn't made up their mind about Schobert? Is there any way he's not getting like $17 million a season from somebody? I can see the argument with some better d-line play he won't be as much of a liability against the run, but he's just a cruddy tackler in general. Yet if we let him walk we are going to put a huge hole in our defense. Damned if you do damned you don't situation. For our scheme, LBs are not that important. I won’t lose sleep over him leaving, but I’d like to keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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