Darbsk Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 hours ago, OG_C2X said: 11 Mil on Schobert or 7.5 Mil on Kwiatkowski Personally I think Schobert is the better all round player as of right now, especially in coverage so I’d probably go there but it’s close and Kwiatkowski for 7.5 is a fair deal as he may well continue to improve and turn out to be better value. It’s a close one and NK is still a little bit of a projection at this stage with Schubert being the more proven vet. I wouldn't argue with someone saying NK is the better option though at their respective costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 While NK isn’t as good in coverage I think his blitzing ability is an asset we needed. I always thought JS would be a better blitzed based on the fact he was a rush 3-4 OLB in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: While NK isn’t as good in coverage I think his blitzing ability is an asset we needed. I always thought JS would be a better blitzed based on the fact he was a rush 3-4 OLB in college. Is guenther going to blitz him enough is the real question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, dante9876 said: Is guenther going to blitz him enough is the real question. That is a very valid question. How can he not get excited about blitzing NK after seeing that clip of his bulldozing the RB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 PG scheme is built off the double a gap blitz. It was the main reason why I was excited about him when he got hired cause if you got the LBs and DE's that is a blitz that puts a lot of pressure on the offensive lineman. Now with NK and Littleton at LB and hopefully better coverage in the backend we will see it a lot more. We saw it here and there this past year but most of the time it was just a front and the LBs dropped back into zone coverage where they were just lost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, dante9876 said: Is guenther going to blitz him enough is the real question. Guenther uses his ILBs showing a double A gap blitz to disguise coverages regularly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, Dessie said: Guenther uses his ILBs showing a double A gap blitz to disguise coverages regularly. He does. But how often did he actually send them. I'm hopeful like every one else that it was cause of talent and not scheme. The reason the disguise didnt really fool anyone cause the linebackers rarely actually came. Everybody talk about make or break years. I truly believe this is one for guenther. I think depending on injuries, this has to be a top 15 to 18 defense next year for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 15 hours ago, agarcia34 said: Brady to Tampa. Very excited to see how he does there. Hope they can surround him with an offensive line. NFC South will be fun to watch this year. Saints vs Bucs Tampa's offense has a very good chance to be filthy with Brady if he signs there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, dante9876 said: He does. But how often did he actually send them. I'm hopeful like every one else that it was cause of talent and not scheme. The reason the disguise didnt really fool anyone cause the linebackers rarely actually came. Everybody talk about make or break years. I truly believe this is one for guenther. I think depending on injuries, this has to be a top 15 to 18 defense next year for him im really just pulling this out my @$$ but maybe PG didn’t send the LB that often on the double A gal blitzes because he didn’t like the amount of pressure we were getting from the DTs. With Collins addition and Hurst and Hall hopefully improving, not to mention NK and Littleton being far better blitzers then Whitehead and Compton, maybe we blitz more. There might be nothing to this assertion but just looking at it from a distance we had LBs who were poor blitzers and weren’t getting enough inside push from the DTs. I’d think for the Double A gap blitz to be effective the DTs would need a nice get off and penetration. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I’m not posting this to aggravate anyone i just found it interesting. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agency-buzz-day-one-postscript/ “Additionally, I spoke with someone inside the league earlier today and this is what their reflections were after the first day of free agency: The Raiders overpaid everybody, but they said they were going to overpay everybody.” I think we got great value with Littleton and were right on with Kwiatkowski. Nassib was a bit of an overpay but even that’s growing on me slowly. Heath’s deal was ridiculous. Idk anything about Mariota, Collins, or Witten yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: I’m not posting this to aggravate anyone i just found it interesting. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agency-buzz-day-one-postscript/ “Additionally, I spoke with someone inside the league earlier today and this is what their reflections were after the first day of free agency: The Raiders overpaid everybody, but they said they were going to overpay everybody.” I think we got great value with Littleton and were right on with Kwiatkowski. Nassib was a bit of an overpay but even that’s growing on me slowly. Heath’s deal was ridiculous. Idk anything about Mariota, Collins, or Witten yet. I thought health deal was the bad one of the group to. I'm ok with everybody else's cause we not up against a cap wall and we didnt commit money that's is going to kill our future cap room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 It really depends on your personal with the double a gap. Like I know for the Vikings they pretty much have 4 DE's on the field. with two LBs. With the Raiders, I don't think they had the right players from top to bottom. Nassib will help a lot with the double a gap cause you can use him inside or out. Vikings do a lot of crazy blitzes out of that defense. Hopefully, PG can start to run the defense he imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Still think we could see Joyner cut now that the post june 1 effect is back with the new CBA. That's probably just me hoping though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 $4,250,000 $4,950,000 That's what it would look like if they cut Joyner with the post June 1st cut. 4.25 in deap cap spread it out two years. Maybe it would be a possibility. It really depends on what they do for the rest of FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, dante9876 said: I thought health deal was the bad one of the group to. I'm ok with everybody else's cause we not up against a cap wall and we didnt commit money that's is going to kill our future cap room. The health move the only one I didn’t like unless we paid bank for Mariota. Witten move was whatever, would rather have brought in a wideout. Really like: Nassib, Collins, Nick, Littleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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