MrBobGray Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: So this is going to come off as haterish, but are we sure that Rodgers wasn't looking to just get Sheppard the hell off the field? Like a, "Can I get 13 out there?" [Instead of this scrub 10] I mean, I think that certainly played a role. I doubt he'd have been asking for Lazard to see the field if Sheppard was having himself a game. But he does seem to legitimately like Lazard, and given that he kept going back to him I think he really did want to get him some minutes. They supposedly sit next to each other in meetings and Rodgers does seem to have a new pet project every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Norm said: Because the fans DEMAND TRADEZZZZZ No it's the itty bitty veteran titty committee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sasquatch said: I can actually see that scenario being the case more than any other, actually. Sheppard may develop into a nice player, but he's just not ready for primetime. That's really all it is I think. The moment was too big for him last night and you could literally see it in his eyes. That's why I don't really blame him, and I can't really blame MLF because he didn't have many - if any - alternatives last night. I'm not going to blame Gute either, because sometimes you make moves that work and payoff immediately, and sometimes you don't. So, we're left with nobody to blame, which is actually kind of ideal. Jesus, it's okay to say he made a mistake. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Jesus, it's okay to say he made a mistake. It’s a mistake if all you’re looking at is the short term, but I still like my take better because we don’t have enough longitudinal data to make a full assessment. Look, Sheppard wasn’t ready, and MLF didn’t have a choice. Not ideal, but Shep isn’t the first player thrust into action before his time out of necessity. I’m not gonna go all nuts looking for someone to blame, but feel free amigo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, Sasquatch said: It’s a mistake if all you’re looking at is the short term, but I still like my take better because we don’t have enough longitudinal data to make a full assessment. Look, Sheppard wasn’t ready, and MLF didn’t have a choice. Not ideal, but Shep isn’t the first player thrust into action before his time out of necessity. I’m not gonna go all nuts looking for someone to blame, but feel free amigo. We're talking about ******* return specialists and 6th round draft picks. What kind of long term evaluation do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: We're talking about ******* return specialists and 6th round draft picks. What kind of long term evaluation do you need? JFC you’re a salty bastard today. If you want to play the blame game then go nuts dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 56 minutes ago, Sasquatch said: It’s a mistake if all you’re looking at is the short term, but I still like my take better because we don’t have enough longitudinal data to make a full assessment. Look, Sheppard wasn’t ready, and MLF didn’t have a choice. Not ideal, but Shep isn’t the first player thrust into action before his time out of necessity. I’m not gonna go all nuts looking for someone to blame, but feel free amigo. The issue I have was this wasn't a necessity, it was choice Gute made in advance. Myself, I haven't seen NFL talent from Shepard. He's slow and small. I don't know what skill set he has to overcome those shortcomings. We'll see, I'm sure I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Donzo said: The issue I have was this wasn't a necessity, it was choice Gute made in advance. Myself, I haven't seen NFL talent from Shepard. He's slow and small. I don't know what skill set he has to overcome those shortcomings. We'll see, I'm sure I'm missing something. You might be right, and not missing anything actually. But we can’t really know by just one game when he was pressed into service before he was ready. All I was saying earlier is I’m not going to play the blame game about why he was in the game before his time, or that Gute made a mistake by picking him over Davis. As it stands now, it appears to be a mistake, but making that take after just one game is poor form, and not one I’m willing to make now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantyWrestler Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Sasquatch said: It’s a mistake if all you’re looking at is the short term, but I still like my take better because we don’t have enough longitudinal data to make a full assessment. Look, Sheppard wasn’t ready, and MLF didn’t have a choice. Not ideal, but Shep isn’t the first player thrust into action before his time out of necessity. I’m not gonna go all nuts looking for someone to blame, but feel free amigo. It’s always about short term. You don’t throw away a more talented player for someone you want to develops. I’m not talking about someone who is green but more gifted either. In this scenario, Lazard looks better and actually looks to be more gifted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Was a big pre-season Shep fan (but also thought Davis looked great). Definitely looks like the wrong decision to move on from Davis in favor of Shepherd at this point. Still think Davis has higher upside than Shep anyway, and is/was definitely far more ready to contribute in 2019. I'd trade Shepherd to Oakland now for Davis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Gute has his work cut out for him at WR .. way too much riff raff currently on this roster at that position. Adams, and MVS are the only two locks moving forward. Kumerow, Shepherd, and Lazard got a shot last night and only Lazard stepped forward. I doubt Alison will be re-signed .. he's really failed to take his game to another level. St. Brown is still a bit of a question mark after a so-so preseason. Kumerow deserved to make the team, but it was because the competition was low grade. Now that he's going up against #1's he's getting nothing accomplished. He has no upside. Shepherd is a poor athlete .. small and slow is no way to go thru life if you want a career in the NFL. He's not worth retaining. I'm expecting a trade for a real NFL wr in the coming days. Make it so, Gute .. time to right some roster wrongs. Edited October 16, 2019 by {Family Ghost} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, MantyWrestler said: It’s always about short term. You don’t throw away a more talented player for someone you want to develops. I’m not talking about someone who is green but more gifted either. In this scenario, Lazard looks better and actually looks to be more gifted too. Agreed, but a sample-size of one game isn’t enough to assess if it was a good short-term move. Shep laid a ginormous turd last night, no doubt about it. I can’t even begin to predict what will happen with him moving forward, but it’s a shame he was pressed into service when apparently he wasn’t ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Gute has his work cut out for him at WR .. way too much riff raff currently on this roster at that position. Adams, and MVS are the only two locks moving forward. Kumerow, Shepherd, and Lazard got a shot last night and only Lazard stepped forward. I doubt Alison will be re-signed .. he's really failed to take his game to another level. St. Brown is still a bit of a question mark after a so-so preseason. Kumerow deserved to make the team, but it was because the competition was low grade. Now that he's going up against #1's he's getting nothing accomplished. He has no upside. Shepherd is a poor athlete .. small and slow is no way to go thru life if you want a career in the NFL. He's not worth retaining. I'm expecting a trade for a real NFL wr in the coming days. Make it so, Gute .. time to right some roster wrongs. Kumerow is a complete waste of a roster spot IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I really don’t think Gute is going to do anything at WR this year. I’d be fine if he moved a 4th-7th round pick for someone a notch above what we’ve got past MVS, but I just don’t see the terrible need right now. Our offense is performing pretty well against pretty good defenses (Cowboys/Lions) without Adams, and Adams will be back. I’d definitely be good with something added there, but not some big blockbuster trade that would make headlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Lazzard was a top 150 recruit out of high school.. Cool to hear... Edited October 16, 2019 by Jaire_Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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