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which button man is gonna corral the packer city magic when it mattes most in the game   

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  1. 1. which button man is gonna corral the packer city magic when it mattes most in the game

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Jameson_Neat

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Just now, Cakeshoppe said:

...........no again? Two feet in bounds and posession are not enough to establish a completion anywhere on the field. Not between the goal lines, not on the side lines, and not in the end zone. One must maintain possession long enough to perform an act common to the game (one need not actually perform such an act but one must possess the ball long enough to be able to). Absent that last condition, if one loses control of the ball and it touches the ground it is an incompletion.

Right, but what is upfield in the end zone?

He clearly made a catch before all the semantics...

What's an act common to the game in the end zone outside of two feet and possession? 

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Sasquatch

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6 minutes ago, BofaDeez54927 said:

Actually, that's still the comp committee.

And has been the comp committee.

It started with Bert.

Agreed, and agree with @Cakeshoppe contribution to this.  All the pre-Calvin debate about a catch was happening in relative obscurity more or less.  Calvin’s situation definitely had the issue brought to a feverish pitch.  And how many times has the rule been changed since that time?  I’ve lost track.  

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Cakeshoppe

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4 minutes ago, BofaDeez54927 said:

Right, but what is upfield in the end zone?

He clearly made a catch before all the semantics...

What's an act common to the game in the end zone outside of two feet and possession? 

Again, there is a disjunction in (c). "Or". The language of the rule clearly states that (c) must be satisfied even in the end zone. If the rule was otherwise, the writers would not have added extra language specifying that the following conditions [(a), (b), and (c)] apply in the end zone. There is no language anywhere in the rule implying that the conditions are any different in the end zone. You do not have to turn upfield in the end zone. You don't have to tuck the ball or any other move. But you do have to possess the ball long enough to be able to perform such an act, even in the end zone. This call wasn't even controversial enough to warrant a booth review. It's a pretty simple ruling.

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2 minutes ago, Cakeshoppe said:

Again, there is a disjunction in (c). "Or". The language of the rule clearly states that (c) must be satisfied even in the end zone. If the rule was otherwise, the writers would not have added extra language specifying that the following conditions [(a), (b), and (c)] apply in the end zone. There is no language anywhere in the rule implying that the conditions are any different in the end zone. You do not have to turn upfield in the end zone. You don't have to tuck the ball or any other move. But you do have to possess the ball long enough to be able to perform such an act, even in the end zone. This call wasn't even controversial enough to warrant a booth review. It's a pretty simple ruling.

Right, so despite the semantics and all the words, different crew and that could totally be a TD, no? 

Im not for being thrown for words, but that's a TD and always should be a TD.

Not for tonight, but forever after.

Explain exactly how much time is needed  for that to be a TD? Another  quarter second? Half?

Stupid rule and stupid implementation

 

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Sasquatch

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My my my, how the tables have turned..........in one week.  Jaire was off last week but damn good tonight.  Jones was rock-star-like last week and nearly a detriment this week.  Gotta say, if Williams didn’t get unscrupulously injured on the first play of the game against the Eagles, I think we win that game.

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2 minutes ago, BofaDeez54927 said:

Right, so despite the semantics and all the words, different crew and that could totally be a TD, no? 

Im not for being thrown for words, but that's a TD and always should be a TD.

Not for tonight, but forever after.

Explain exactly how much time is needed  for that to be a TD? Another  quarter second? Half?

Stupid rule and stupid implementation

 

Dude different crew same call.  What don't you understand about the rule?  You have to control the ball through the process of the catch including going to the ground.  If you lose control of the ball when you hit the ground it's an incomplete pass period.  It's been called this way for years.  No it's not new and it doesn't matter if you are in the end zone or if you get 2 feet in on the sideline but lose the ball when you hit the ground out of bounds.  Get over it and learn the rules.

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