ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, RaidersAreOne said: **** the Jets that's evil 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, N4L said: no, I am saying he was incentivized by something like 20 million dollars to elect for surgery. Surgery guaranteed him 20+m. No surgery meant he was risking that money, because we could cut him and pay him nothing. I started with '49ers team doctors were horrible for sure'. There is no denying that the team doctors can have the interests of the team before the players. There is also no denying that everyone in this world looks out for themselves first and foremost and that CK had incentive to elect for surgery, when it might not have been completely necessary or even the best course of action. We will never know, and its ancient history now, so lets move on from CK. its ****ty that this happens, but it happens on both sides. Ramsey faked a back injury recently, does that mean we should never trust players injuries? No offense, but this is BS. This is EXACTLY how owners wants fans to act. His shoulder surgery he had was one that took him some time to rehab. No one just willingly goes under the knife three times in one offseason. Did Ramsey "fake" a back injury and have some back operation? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Jets are trying to get out of having to pay him money for nothing. Once they fine him, he can be cut without having guaranteed money. Osemele would have to file a grievance, but this dude knew he had a injury, was healthy enough to start the season but now decides he wants surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: @jrry32 at what point would this be medical malpractice by the team doctors? If the Jets the team are doing something, it wouldn't be. If the doctors themselves are lying to get him to play, it would be a huge problem. But that would mean they are objectively lying, not that it's debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift21 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: No offense, but this is BS. This is EXACTLY how owners wants fans to act. His shoulder surgery he had was one that took him some time to rehab. No one just willingly goes under the knife three times in one offseason. Did Ramsey "fake" a back injury and have some back operation? He certainly faked a back injury to stay distant from the team. Edited October 18, 2019 by Swift21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 What is with scummy team DR's and front offices trying to make injured players play lately? Washington, Cincy, NYJ and these are just the ones reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, J-ALL-DAY said: No offense, but this is BS. This is EXACTLY how owners wants fans to act. His shoulder surgery he had was one that took him some time to rehab. No one just willingly goes under the knife three times in one offseason. Did Ramsey "fake" a back injury and have some back operation? Nah he "faked" the back injury to distance himself from the team. Not to have an operation. The operation he was attempting to get was a trade. It worked. He's magically cleared now and is practicing in full since getting to LA. Edited October 19, 2019 by Nick_gb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I think the point that Osemele’s injury is legit by the fact it needs surgery is getting lost here. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Swift21 said: He certainly faked a back injury to stay distant from the team. 23 minutes ago, Nick_gb said: Nah he "faked" the back injury to distance himself from the team. Not to have an operation. The operation he was attempting to get was a trade. It worked. He's magically cleared now and is practicing in full since getting to LA. So not even close to having three operations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Screw team doctors. Get you one of these instead.... The book lives up to it's title. In that it's only worked for one player so far 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: So not even close to having three operations? Correct and I never suggested Kaep's injuries were fake. In fact, I don't see how comparing Kaep to Ramsey benefits your case. Ramsey was clearly faking whereas Kaep had a legitimate medical concern that was ignored by the SF Medical team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Nick_gb said: Correct and I never suggested Kaep's injuries were fake. In fact, I don't see how comparing Kaep to Ramsey benefits your case. Ramsey was clearly faking whereas Kaep had a legitimate medical concern that was ignored by the SF Medical team. I didn't bring up that comparison, N4L did. He used Ramsey to show that Kap really may not have needed his operations. Ramsey did what he had to get out of Jacksonville as AB did what he had to do to get out of Oakland. But neither would have ever went under the knife to get what they wanted. You just don't do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 hours ago, J-ALL-DAY said: NEVER TRUST TEAM DOCTORS! Always get 2nd and 3rd opinions. I keep going back to the 49ers team doctors telling Kaepernick he was fine and then when he went to outside doctors, he ended up having three operations in offseason. Sucks, but as Barkley said, the team doctors will do what is best for the TEAM they are working for, not the player himself. just look at the misdiagnosis problems of the redskins which is half the reason trent is holding out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 could this be another trade in the works? If he doesn't feel healthy enough to play and they are trying to force him to, is there anything that can stop them? Maybe I will keep my job for now, I was planning on a tryout for the jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: **** the Jets that's evil I am not in anyway saying this is okay. It’s a terrible culture. However, this isn’t just a Jets thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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