cannondale Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe said: I'd throw 94 at TB for him, especially given that TB needs OL and RB help; both positions of which will be there in both value and abundance at that point. On the other hand, I can't help but think that TB would want to keep him given that Gronk is essentially a short-term rental, and that Howard's a lot more agile than Gronk is at this point. Gronk is there to provide chemistry. A 3rd round pick for a 1 year rental at $3.5m - 35 catches and 1 td ?? I must be missing the punch line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, cannondale said: A 3rd round pick for a 1 year rental at $3.5m - 35 catches and 1 td ?? I must be missing the punch line I think it's gonna cost more like a 5th otherwise he wouldn't be that available. Bucs just gave up a 4th for Gronk, so they must feel like he's worth something similar or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, skibrett15 said: I think it's gonna cost more like a 5th otherwise he wouldn't be that available. Bucs just gave up a 4th for Gronk, so they must feel like he's worth something similar or worse. I don't take on that contract / production / rental for free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, cannondale said: I don't take on that contract / production / rental for free. i mean that's just asinine and dumb. Of course you would. Howard is a competent, above average NFL tight end with significant significant upside. Significant. OJ Howard had the single most efficient season in 2018 over the past 3 years. 11.77 yards per target. Per target! And it wasn't on 0 volume either, 56 yards per game in an injury shortened season. Over the last 3 years, there's 12 TEs who have had a season over 50 yards/game. Howard is one of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: i mean that's just asinine and dumb. Of course you would. Howard is a competent, above average NFL tight end with significant significant upside. Significant. OJ Howard had the single most efficient season in 2018 over the past 3 years. 11.77 yards per target. Per target! And it wasn't on 0 volume either, 56 yards per game in an injury shortened season. Over the last 3 years, there's 12 TEs who have had a season over 50 yards/game. Howard is one of them. That's a pretty impressive resume for someone that just got replaced. He's a one year rental coming off a 35 catch 1 td season. Dumb is giving up assets for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, cannondale said: That's a pretty impressive resume for someone that just got replaced. He's a one year rental coming off a 35 catch 1 td season. Dumb is giving up assets for that. just a stubborn old school coach who didn't know how to manage a very talented player who didn't fit the position his scheme emphasized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, cannondale said: That's a pretty impressive resume for someone that just got replaced. He's a one year rental coming off a 35 catch 1 td season. Dumb is giving up assets for that. would you give up assets for a 42 catch 3 TD season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, incognito_man said: would you give up assets for a 42 catch 3 TD season? Sternberger can't give you that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 throw a 4th at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, cannondale said: A 3rd round pick for a 1 year rental at $3.5m - 35 catches and 1 td ?? I must be missing the punch line Who was throwing him the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festiveonion Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Joe said: Who was throwing him the ball? Mr. Crabs Leg threw 30 tuddies and 5000+ yards lol He isn’t the problem. If you’re trying to blame someone besides OJ for it, blame the HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Joe said: Who was throwing him the ball? It doesn't matter. That's a far too expensive rental from a guy who's not gonna give you much more than what Sternberger will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, cannondale said: Sternberger can't give you that ? A guy that gave you that last year can give you 98 catches and 23 TDs the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, cannondale said: That's a pretty impressive resume for someone that just got replaced. He's a one year rental coming off a 35 catch 1 td season. Dumb is giving up assets for that. I just have to laugh at people who speak with such certainty yet their only knowledge of a player is the box score that a Google search pulled up of them. Howard was a 1st round pick, who has a career YPC of 15.5 and a career catch rate of 67%. He's one of the best TEs in the NFL that's been massively underused by inept coaches. To get him for a 4th would be an utter steal and he would instantly be on par with Aaron Jones as the 2nd best player on our offense. Speak with certainty when you have knowledge and context please. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubz41 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I just have to laugh at people who speak with such certainty yet their only knowledge of a player is the box score that a Google search pulled up of them. Howard was a 1st round pick, who has a career YPC of 15.5 and a career catch rate of 67%. He's one of the best TEs in the NFL that's been massively underused by inept coaches. To get him for a 4th would be an utter steal and he would instantly be on par with Aaron Jones as the 2nd best player on our offense. Speak with certainty when you have knowledge and context please. 3rd best, don't diss on Adams. Wonder if he could be had for Lane Taylor and a 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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