Soko Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, dtait93 said: He wasn’t good either You said anyone who is equal to or worse than Dalton, is bad. So was Dalton bad in his career or not? He’s been good in spurts. He’s been bad in spurts. Most would call him an average. That’s not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: You said anyone who is equal to or worse than Dalton, is bad. So was Dalton bad in his career or not? He’s been good in spurts. He’s been bad in spurts. Most would call him an average. That’s not bad. Dalton is below average. Newton is worse than Dalton. Newton is bad. Make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Breesus mode said: His legs and passing make him a top 10 QB this decade Taylor Swift has MUCH better legs, but I wouldn't rate her as a Top 10 QB either. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, dtait93 said: Dalton is below average. Newton is worse than Dalton. Newton is bad. Make sense? Dalton wasn’t below average. Newton wasn’t below Dalton. Newton is decent-to-above average. Make sense? And if Dalton is below average, how does being equal to him make you bad? What do you have to substantiate that Dalton is below average and Newton is bad? Serious question, since there’s yet to be anything remotely close to substance posted to this point. Edited February 13, 2020 by Yin-Yang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Elky said: How is Peyton a top five for the decade? He played just five seasons and was only dominant for 2.5 of them (2012 to first half of 2014). I mean, you had people LITERALLY calling for him to win the MVP while he was out with an injury during an entire season, so I never underestimate the mass's irrational level of fawning over Pey-Pey. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Elky said: How is Peyton a top five for the decade? He played just five seasons and was only dominant for 2.5 of them (2012 to first half of 2014). Manning was a 2 time 1st team all pro and MVP during the decade. He also posted one of the greatest statistical seasons in NFL history during this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, iknowcool said: So what's your top 10, and who are you bumping Newton off for? I think ya'll are just saying stuff without actually thinking about the past decade. Newton scored 240 touchdowns in the 2010s and led a team to a 15-1 record and a Super Bowl appearance. To say he sucks is absolutely ignorant, but even if you think he's not that good, I'm not sure who you are taking off the top 10 for him. Eli Manning? Andy Dalton? Carson Palmer? Come on now. This is my argument. Maybe I should have had him at the bottom of the list, but the guy DID win an MVP and earn a 1st team all pro. Once you get past the 6 no brainers: Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Wilson, and Ryan, the list gets kind of muddled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Elky said: How is Peyton a top five for the decade? He played just five seasons and was only dominant for 2.5 of them (2012 to first half of 2014). You haven't been watching football for very long, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: Dalton wasn’t below average. Newton wasn’t below Dalton. Newton is decent-to-above average. Make sense? And if Dalton is below average, how does being equal to him make you bad? What do you have to substantiate that Dalton is below average and Newton is bad? Serious question, since there’s yet to be anything remotely close to substance posted to this point. He doesn’t have anything. He’s just saying stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, JustAnotherFan said: You haven't been watching football for very long, have you? Peyton had a down year in 2010. If it weren't for such an easy final quarter of the season, Indy could have missed the playoffs. He missed all of 2011 due to neck surgery. Peyton's play noticeably dropped in the second half of 2014. We all know the horrors that was 2015 Zombie Peyton. Edited February 13, 2020 by Elky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: And if Dalton is below average, how does being equal to him make you bad? I think it would help if you read. 16 hours ago, dtait93 said: Newton is worse than Dalton. 13 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: What do you have to substantiate that Dalton is below average and Newton is bad? Serious question, since there’s yet to be anything remotely close to substance posted to this point. As I go through the data, you're right. Dalton is the epitome of average. Newton is bad because he's an inaccurate, erratic QB that's propped up because he's a good running back. Outside of one miraculous outlier season, he's been largely terrible. When your completion percentage, interception percentage, passer rating, Y/A, AY/A, NY/A, and ANY/A are ALL worse than the likes of Marcus Mariota I'll always view you as a bad QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 The minute i saw Rivers all the way down at 10, i blacked out and stopped reading. I will officially be petitioning for Pete's resignation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 23 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: 1. Brady 2. Rodgers 3. Brees 4. Roethlisberger 5. Wilson 6. Rivers 7. Romo 8. Ryan 9. Stafford 10. Eli Manning Best list so far. Not sure id put Ben over Rivers. But thats only gripe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1) Brady 2) Rodgers 3) Brees 4) Wilson 5) Roethlisberger 6) Rivers 7) Ryan 8) P. Manning 9) Luck 10) Stafford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/12/2020 at 5:44 AM, lavar703 said: How is Tony Romo not on this list but Newton is? First thing that stood out to me. Romo over Newton 1,000 times over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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