ditchdigger Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 52 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: Browns signing DE Adrian Clayborn to a 2 year 6million dollar deal Bye Chad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 do we play the cowboys this year? 6 sacks in a game? God damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I thought one of the nerds philosophies was not to pay for depth. Good signing though. Much better than the parade of street FAs we ended up going with last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, sdrawkcab321 said: do we play the cowboys this year? 6 sacks in a game? God damn I believe we do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 More than i would have liked to pay him. We needed more defensive ends badly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Apparently he stricktly plays on the right side due to erbs palsy, he is our back up debover the left tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, buno67 said: https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status/1232298578149826562?s=20 Let's put something to bed after being told over & over again how Olivier Vernon wasn't productive last season. Pass-rush productivity (percentage of snaps, 200 or more, with pressure generated): 1. Garrett - 15.1% 2. Vernon - 13.2% For comparison, following edge-rushers fit into same range as Vernon in pass-rush productivity: Khalil Mack: 13.2% Dante Fowler: 13.2% Brandon Graham: 13.1% Arik Armstead: 12.5% Chandler Jones: 12.2% Everson Griffen: 12.1% Top FAs Ngakoue & Clowney fell below those numbers. You mention Ingram, PFF graded Vernon higher than him. PFF stats are fine, but this is where I have a issue. Vernon was #111th in Sacks, #174th in TFLs and only generated 1 Forced Fumble. For $17 million per year, I expect a lot more than being good at pressures. I expect him to finish those pressures and create more game changing plays. Need to see more drive killing sacks, stuffing the RB for a 4 yard loss and some strip sack fumbles for $17 million. Hes not doing any of that. Hes not that type of high end DE. Edited March 31, 2020 by AkronsWitness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, ditchdigger said: Bye Chad Garrett Vernon Clayborn? We need more than 3 DEs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Depth signing maybe beats out Vernon i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: PFF stats are fine, but this is where I have a issue. Vernon was #111th in Sacks, #174th in TFLs and only generated 1 Forced Fumble. For $17 million per year, I expect a lot more than being good at pressures. I expect him to finish those pressures and create more game changing plays. Well he had to fight to finish those pressures with Garrett. Garrett beat him a lot of times to the QB. Doesn’t help that our secondary wasn’t very good. Improved secondary will improve that. Again youre box score scouting. Meaningless scouting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, mtmmike said: Depth signing maybe beats out Vernon Only way he is beating out Vernon is if Vernon isn’t healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Great signing! Proven Depth it’ll be interesting to see what goes on with Vernon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: PFF stats are fine, but this is where I have a issue. Vernon was #111th in Sacks, #174th in TFLs and only generated 1 Forced Fumble. For $17 million per year, I expect a lot more than being good at pressures. I expect him to finish those pressures and create more game changing plays. Need to see more drive killing sacks, stuffing the RB for a 4 yard loss and some strip sack fumbles for $17 million. Hes not doing any of that. Hes not that type of high end DE. You wouldn't get as much value from him in a trade as you would just running him back out there and hoping he doesn't keep getting tagged with injuries. It's like the same thing as Odell. Who cares that he's way overpaid when he's off the books next year. We aren't going to need that cash now. He tried gutting through an injury last year and went down again. I'm not questioning his heart, he plays hard when he's out there. Edited March 31, 2020 by Rod Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Depth signing maybe beats out Vernon 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Only way he is beating out Vernon is if Vernon isn’t healthy 2 minutes ago, buno67 said: Only way he is beating out Vernon is if Vernon isn’t healthy I understand your love for vernon who would not pay 60,000.000 for 12 sacks from the hole defensive line. Keep in mine Thomas had 4 sacks starting 6 games and Myles was not on the field to help him. i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, ditchdigger said: Bye Chad Halftime performer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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