swede700 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: Frazier made the playoffs a year earlier. Childress won the division two years in a row. The Vikings won the division, despite Childress, two years in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: The Vikings won the division, despite Childress, two years in a row. Sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, vikingsrule said: The Vikes ownership has shown no willingness to make changes. They’ve mostly become content with mediocrity and a playoff trip every other year. That’s good enough for probably 80% of the leagues owners, why would the Wilfs behave any differently. They got their expensive facility financed and a loyal fan base. There isn’t interest in the NFL right now, but I’m confident that when stadiums do open up again, fans will return in waves. I don’t think you can create optimism and hope for a team that has Kirk Cousins under Center if I’m being honest. Yeah their fan base is near toxic levels. The reaction of Vikings Twitter when Diggs was traded, even with the Minnesota Miracle play, was ugly. They straight gave him the middle finger and talked about how trash Josh Allen was compared to Cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, twslhs20 said: Yeah their fan base is near toxic levels. The reaction of Vikings Twitter when Diggs was traded, even with the Minnesota Miracle play, was ugly. They straight gave him the middle finger and talked about how trash Josh Allen was compared to Cousins. Diggs quit on the team and gave them the middle finger. Were fans supposed to give him a hearty handshake? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Sure I personally believe it's revisionist history to view it any other way. Bevell had more control of the offense in 2008, which allowed Childress...most of the time, to stay out of his way and cause issues...and 2009 was all Favre, practically rebelling against Childress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, swede700 said: I personally believe it's revisionist history to view it any other way. Bevell had more control of the offense in 2008, which allowed Childress...most of the time, to stay out of his way and cause issues...and 2009 was all Favre, practically rebelling against Childress. Childress was still in charge of the team and leading them. Bad coaches don’t win. Childress may not have been the reason they won, but they didn’t win despite him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Diggs quit on the team and gave them the middle finger. Were fans supposed to give him a hearty handshake? He knew how bad Cousins was, and called it for what it was. The guy just got paid. All he cared about was winning. Now his team is 2-0 and we're 0-2. I doubt we would even give the Bills a decent game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Childress was still in charge of the team and leading them. Bad coaches don’t win. Childress may not have been the reason they won, but they didn’t win despite him. Bad coaches don't win? Adam Gase should be sending Manning a percentage of his salary for the career he gave him. Even exceptionally bad coaches can win in certain situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, twslhs20 said: He knew how bad Cousins was, and called it for what it was. The guy just got paid. All he cared about was winning. Now his team is 2-0 and we're 0-2. I doubt we would even give the Bills a decent game And none of that has anything to do with fan reaction for him quitting on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, SemperFeist said: And none of that has anything to do with fan reaction for him quitting on the team. That's pretty much what lead to the trade. What are you even talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, twslhs20 said: Bad coaches don't win? Adam Gase should be sending Manning a percentage of his salary for the career he gave him. Even exceptionally bad coaches can win in certain situations. Gase was Manning’s OC, not the head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, twslhs20 said: That's pretty much what lead to the trade. What are you even talking about? What are you talking about? Diggs forced his way out. He quit on the team. The reason doesn’t matter. Why would you think fans would wish him all the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Gase was Manning’s OC, not the head coach. Yes. They were running Gase's system. Which is trash, because he is a trash coach. OC/HC or otherwise. Same thing for Ken Whisenhunt and Kurt Warner in 08 if you want to talk strictly Head Coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twslhs20 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: What are you talking about? Diggs forced his way out. He quit on the team. The reason doesn’t matter. Why would you think fans would wish him all the best? Maybe because Minnesota fans, for the most part, were not known for being human pieces of garbage? But that seems to have regressed from the mean in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Diggs quit on the team and gave them the middle finger. Were fans supposed to give him a hearty handshake? Quit on the team? care to expand on this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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