NYRaider Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Lol Wow myth solved well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, oakdb36 said: We'd already be in the PO this season if we had an average D. We'd be in the post season if the offense could finish drives as well. The Chargers and Dolphins games both could have been won with better offensive play calling. Having the talent they have on offense and being ranked 25th in red zone efficiency is telling. Behind teams like the Broncos, Bears, Dolphins, WFT, Jaguars. They lead the NFL in FGs from 20-29 yards. You can have a terrible defense and still have issues on offense. There is a lot to be fixed in year 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, oakdb36 said: We'd already be in the PO this season if we had an average D. We’d be in the po every year if the season ended in November 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, oakdb36 said: We'd already be in the PO this season if we had an average D. Incorrect. You dont get into the playoffs kicking 3s and when your QB fumbles on nearly half his sacks. Defense needs to get a lot better but they aren't our only issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 hours ago, oakdb36 said: We'd already be in the PO this season if we had an average D. Correct, offense can improve no doubt but the defense is the reason why we aren’t in the playoffs, they’ve been a shambles all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: We’d be in the po every year if the season ended in November Seasons are made in December. This has always been the case. It troubles me that Carr seems to tail off in December every year. Goes back the the consistency I've always had a problem with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Seasons are made in December. This has always been the case. It troubles me that Carr seems to tail off in December every year. Goes back the the consistency I've always had a problem with. Almost every afc po team doesn’t play in a dome. No chance for us even if we sneak into the offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Sad thing is our off is built for December -power rbs -huge oline -te’s perfect for ugly winter weather games see us vs Browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: We'd be in the post season if the offense could finish drives as well. The Chargers and Dolphins games both could have been won with better offensive play calling. Having the talent they have on offense and being ranked 25th in red zone efficiency is telling. Behind teams like the Broncos, Bears, Dolphins, WFT, Jaguars. They lead the NFL in FGs from 20-29 yards. You can have a terrible defense and still have issues on offense. There is a lot to be fixed in year 4. If we finished drives well, considering we're already 7th in points per drive, we'd basically be a top 3 offense carrying a bottom 3 defense (31st in points per drive). Not really a recipe for success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 hours ago, big_palooka said: We'd be in the post season if the offense could finish drives as well. The Chargers and Dolphins games both could have been won with better offensive play calling. Having the talent they have on offense and being ranked 25th in red zone efficiency is telling. Behind teams like the Broncos, Bears, Dolphins, WFT, Jaguars. They lead the NFL in FGs from 20-29 yards. You can have a terrible defense and still have issues on offense. There is a lot to be fixed in year 4. Why would you focus on the things the offense isn't good at when the defense isn't good at anything? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, oakdb36 said: Why would you focus on the things the offense isn't good at when the defense isn't good at anything? Because too many people think you have to pick a side for some reason. Offense or defense. It's not black and white. If you want to build a consistent playoff performing team, then you need to address multiple areas. And Red Zone scoring is a major one. At best, you hope to get the defense to average next year. An average defense, with a 25th ranked red zone scoring offense isn't going to win you games consistently in December or anything in the playoffs. Further... the talent is there on offense. Is it that much to ask to focus on better play calling in the red zone going forward? That the coach assess himself as a play caller? Can they do that and address a failing defense? Edited January 1, 2021 by big_palooka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 People just think fixing the defense comes before expecting the offense to be perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: People just think fixing the defense comes before expecting the offense to be perfect. I think fixing the defense is the priority. Our offense shouldn't have to score 30 to win, that's insane. It'd be nice if we could consistently score 30, yeah. But it shouldn't be a fixture on this team that other teams look at and say... They can't stop us. My take, tweak the offense, add some help. Heavy focus on defense from the top down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolni Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Finding the D is the priority. Need a new competent D staff and then Gruden needs to let them work, evaluate and get together with the scots too. Since the O roster is in good shape and there are multiple successful areas on O, Gruden should have the time to correct the abysmal RZ offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rolni said: Finding the D is the priority. Need a new competent D staff and then Gruden needs to let them work, evaluate and get together with the scots too. Since the O roster is in good shape and there are multiple successful areas on O, Gruden should have the time to correct the abysmal RZ offense. We are still lacking a RZ, playmaking, physical WR. Not having that type of Wr is hurting our RZ numbers big time. D's focus on Waller and our other WR's are below average with size/physicality and making contested catches in tight spaces. That limits what we can do in the RZ big time. i was hoping Edwards would show that he can be that type of threat this year but that never happened. No doubt D need to be priority number 1 and finding a stud 3T to get interior pressure is critical. Edited January 1, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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