big_palooka Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 hours ago, oakdb36 said: All the contracts have been updated on overthecap. They have the Raiders with 11.8M in cap space. Mariota: 1.75M base + 1.75 signing bonus (up to 8M total value with incentives); 3.5M cap hit (3.5M guaranteed) Martin: 1M base + 250K signing bonus + 500K bonus (?); 1.75M cap hit (250K guaranteed) Incognito: 1.1M base + 1.02M per game roster bonus; 1.227M cap hit (1.1M guaranteed) Dickerson: 920K base + 80K signing bonus; 1M cap hit (80K guaranteed) Philon: 990K base; 850K cap hit (0 guaranteed) Looking like a lot of competition for camp, with some FA signings not making the roster again. Similar to Randall, Amukamara a year ago. Looked good on paper when signed, didn't make the final 53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGlove Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 5 hours ago, oakdb36 said: All the contracts have been updated on overthecap. They have the Raiders with 11.8M in cap space. Mariota: 1.75M base + 1.75 signing bonus (up to 8M total value with incentives); 3.5M cap hit (3.5M guaranteed) Martin: 1M base + 250K signing bonus + 500K bonus (?); 1.75M cap hit (250K guaranteed) Incognito: 1.1M base + 1.02M per game roster bonus; 1.227M cap hit (1.1M guaranteed) Dickerson: 920K base + 80K signing bonus; 1M cap hit (80K guaranteed) Philon: 990K base; 850K cap hit (0 guaranteed) Guessing that's not counting the $8m for rookies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, OnlyGlove said: Guessing that's not counting the $8m for rookies? Yes, the draft class isn't accounted for. But they don't need 8M in cap space for the rookies. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/cap/ Scroll down to the Projected Draft Pool Cap section. The top 51 cap hit is 5.9M to which you have to substract the cap hits for the 4 players getting pushed out of the top 51 (850K x 4 = 3.4M). They need 2.5M in cap space to fit the class. Need a bit for UDFA signing bonuses too. And teams always keep a bit of room for flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 We're probably done signing OL vets but a good G is still out there in Larry Warford. Opted out last year IIRC but was a solid player previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, oakdb36 said: Yes, the draft class isn't accounted for. But they don't need 8M in cap space for the rookies. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/cap/ Scroll down to the Projected Draft Pool Cap section. The top 51 cap hit is 5.9M to which you have to substract the cap hits for the 4 players getting pushed out of the top 51 (850K x 4 = 3.4M). They need 2.5M in cap space to fit the class. Need a bit for UDFA signing bonuses too. And teams always keep a bit of room for flexibility. sounds like we would be lucky to add one more free agent. kinda feel we paid too much on Wideouts. was there really a point in giving Zay Jones a raise If we signed Brown and Snead. Also feels like Ateman just taking up space, he hasn't made the team in like 4 years but gets a new deal. I would rather add more competition on LB/DBs. Surprised we haven't cut Richard yet at 3.5m. Do you really need Peterman if we brought back MM. Magnuson is a scrub too, could sign a cheap UDFA instead of pay him 1m. day 3 and UDFA could easily take their spots for alot cheaper Magnuson 1m Peterman 1m Richard 3.5m that's 5.5m, pays for alot of the rookie class salaries Edited April 1, 2021 by Humble_Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: sounds like we would be lucky to add one more free agent. kinda feel we paid too much on Wideouts. was there really a point in giving Zay Jones a raise If we signed Brown and Snead. Also feels like Ateman just taking up space, he hasn't made the team in like 4 years but gets a new deal. I would rather add more competition on LB/DBs. Surprised we haven't cut Richard yet at 3.5m. Do you really need Peterman if we brought back MM. Magnuson is a scrub too, could sign a cheap UDFA instead of pay him 1m. day 3 and UDFA could easily take their spots for alot cheaper Magnuson 1m Peterman 1m Richard 3.5m that's 5.5m, pays for alot of the rookie class salaries You have to have backend roster players. Peterman is a cheap backup if Mariota is traded. Richard is the best pass blocking back on the roster. Magnuson is on a future/reserve contract. If the FO wanted to sign LBs/DBs they would. Money is not the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) re: overthecap i question their numbers for Andre James. they have him showing a 2.5 mil cap hit this year, and making 3.5 mil for each of the next 2 years (those numbers dont add up to the 3/12.5 which had been reported nothing reported yet re: the structure of kolton's extension Edited April 1, 2021 by Turnobili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Richard Sherman was in Vegas. Doesn't look to be Raider related, but in Vegas either way so you may never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Richard Sherman was in Vegas. Doesn't look to be Raider related, but in Vegas either way so you may never know. i heard he was spotted at Logan airport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Turnobili said: however, i question their numbers for Andre James. they have him showing a 2.5 mil cap hit this year, and making 3.5 mil for each of the next 2 years (those numbers dont add up to the 3/12.5 which had been reported Wouldn't be the first time the first report on a contract isn't really accurate. I'm willing to believe the numbers they took 2 weeks to publish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: sounds like we would be lucky to add one more free agent. kinda feel we paid too much on Wideouts. was there really a point in giving Zay Jones a raise If we signed Brown and Snead. Also feels like Ateman just taking up space, he hasn't made the team in like 4 years but gets a new deal. I would rather add more competition on LB/DBs. Surprised we haven't cut Richard yet at 3.5m. Do you really need Peterman if we brought back MM. Magnuson is a scrub too, could sign a cheap UDFA instead of pay him 1m. day 3 and UDFA could easily take their spots for alot cheaper Magnuson 1m Peterman 1m Richard 3.5m that's 5.5m, pays for alot of the rookie class salaries Richard, Heath, Hurst, Key, and Parker are all cut candidates. Not saying any or all would be smart but those are the only players outside of Carr that save us money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, oakdb36 said: Wouldn't be the first time the first report on a contract isn't really accurate. I'm willing to believe the numbers they took 2 weeks to publish. true. vinny had previously reported that the extension wasnt going to affect this year's cap number, but that turned out to be wrong since his cap hit is reaching 2.5 mil this year. going with the draft cap numbers from spotrac... looks like we have just under 6 mil in room. could still clear more room if they get Carlson signed to a longer term deal than the tender which is sitting at 3.4 mil. can also potentially move on from Richard. giving Zay Jones 2.5 just seems excessive too Edited April 1, 2021 by Turnobili 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roninho Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Yeah the zay jones one is a shame, especially with it being guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 13 hours ago, oakdb36 said: Yes, the draft class isn't accounted for. But they don't need 8M in cap space for the rookies. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/cap/ Scroll down to the Projected Draft Pool Cap section. The top 51 cap hit is 5.9M to which you have to substract the cap hits for the 4 players getting pushed out of the top 51 (850K x 4 = 3.4M). They need 2.5M in cap space to fit the class. Need a bit for UDFA signing bonuses too. And teams always keep a bit of room for flexibility. Correct... Nfltraderumors (on March 25th I believe) reported we need $3,459,745 to sign draft picks but that number chances with every Player we bring in that’s above the #51 in cap cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, Roninho said: Yeah the zay jones one is a shame, especially with it being guaranteed What’s an even bigger shame is there’s a cap exception we could have used to resign our own player and didn’t use it on him. ”New “Veteran Salary Benefit” allowing up to 2 players with four years of service to remain with their club; up to an additional $1.25M in Paragraph 5 excluded from the salary cap by each club each year; increases throughout course of deal.” https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/PDFs/CBA Side by Side 3.9.20 FINAL.pdf page 2, right under chart why didn’t we use this on Jones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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