JetsandI Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, jetfuel34 said: Strongly is agree here. We don't need Watson when we have all kinds of paths to take. We can draft a QB at 2, keep Sam, get a QB in FA like a Mariota, Winston type guys. The Texans have no choice but to move him if the realtionship is that bad. Mariota is under contract with Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 57 minutes ago, xenajets said: I think @xrade was on the money to be fair. Houston would not even entertain trading Deshaun away in normal circumstances so they are being forced into action due to their own errors in player management. Then it comes down to getting the best compensation possible. If any of the other teams mentioned traded their first round pick even just this year it massively pales in comparison to the #2 overall pick. We are by far the best option to trade with....Miami I believe is the only team that near on matches us although I’m unsure of their cap heading into 2021 and beyond. But they hold all the leverage. It’s not like he’s in a final year of his deal or something. He just signed a deal. Is he sitting out indefinitely? No. So they hold the cards. They either decide to trade him for a legit offer, play hard ball with him and see if he actually sits out or decide to change things and make moves that will want him to stay. They hold the cards. We have to remember at this stage HOU isn’t trying to trade him. They’re trying to see what they can do to make him happy and want to stay. If that fails... then they have to choose to play hardball or trade him. That’s when the Jets should be calling. And yes we should low ball offer initially to try and not give up too much. But at the end of the day... We need a franchise QB so to trade 3 1st and still have 1sts these next 2 drafts is a great deal for us. Make the trade pre FA and now we can sell our franchise to FAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Bobby816 said: But this franchise is starving for a franchise QB and he'd be that This fan base is starving for playoff wins and a SB not just a QB. We are not just a QB away from that goal. Getting rid a 3 FRP will stunt our rebuild. Unless the goal is a great QB and 4 wins then do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, xrade said: This fan base is starving for playoff wins and a SB not just a QB. We are not just a QB away from that goal. Getting rid a 3 FRP will stunt our rebuild. Unless the goal is a great QB and 4 wins then do it. A QB that good does make us a contender. Add that we'd still have around 75mill in cap space and still a good amount of draft picks... yes we would be a contender. Watson is 25 years old. He's not a guy with just a couple good years left in him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, xrade said: This fan base is starving for playoff wins and a SB not just a QB. We are not just a QB away from that goal. Getting rid a 3 FRP will stunt our rebuild. Unless the goal is a great QB and 4 wins then do it. We still have plenty of assets to improve the roster with picks and cap space to improve the roster. This notion that we'd have Watson and a bare cupboard is just flat out false. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, xrade said: This fan base is starving for playoff wins and a SB not just a QB. We are not just a QB away from that goal. Getting rid a 3 FRP will stunt our rebuild. Unless the goal is a great QB and 4 wins then do it. Think about the teams that have done the best drafting over the last 5 years, then think of the teams that are SB favorites/bound this season and going forward. How many teams are in both segments? How many of those teams that are in both segments are there because they drafted a top tier QB or because they had one? In other words, how many teams that are SB favorites going forward are there because of drafting alone and not because of top QB play? I can only think of two, the Rams and the 49ers, and they happen to have top-end coaching. QBs matter more than drafting. If you draft a top tier QB, than you've hit the jackpot, but are never that lucky. At the point in time, the fans might be more willing to take the sure stud Watson over more question marks and figure out the rest later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 We could trade for Watson and still have a pick in every round of the draft.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heymangold Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The addition of Saleh has already made the Jets more desirable for players. Look at what Sherman said today, advocating Watson to get out of houston and goto the Jets. Allen Robinson liked that tweet as well. Players see the direction the Jets are going, the leadership that is there now, the market we’re in. They want to be a part of it. getting Watson would catapult the franchise into even more relevancy. You better believe arob would want to come here to get passes from Watson, the best qb he’d have his whole career. Would have the money to get Thuney as well. The line would be solidified. Connor Rogers said on his Badlands podcast that he thinks Fant will fit in perfectly to the offensive system, the outside zone scheme. It’s nice to look forward to something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 When hired, JD planned to develop the roster via drafts not FA. Year 1 showed that. Now, we the fans expect Jets to revert back to aggressive FA, starting with a trade for Watson? If JD follows that then he is weak. That is crazy to think JD's vision abruptly changed after one freaking year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, JetsandI said: When hired, JD planned to develop the roster via drafts not FA. Year 1 showed that. Now, we the fans expect Jets to revert back to aggressive FA, starting with a trade for Watson? If JD follows that then he is weak. That is crazy to think JD's vision abruptly changed after one freaking year. When hired he didn't plan on trading Adams and getting 2 extra 1st rounders. So that changes things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, Heymangold said: The addition of Saleh has already made the Jets more desirable for players. Look at what Sherman said today, advocating Watson to get out of houston and goto the Jets. Allen Robinson liked that tweet as well. Players see the direction the Jets are going, the leadership that is there now, the market we’re in. They want to be a part of it. getting Watson would catapult the franchise into even more relevancy. You better believe arob would want to come here to get passes from Watson, the best qb he’d have his whole career. Would have the money to get Thuney as well. The line would be solidified. Connor Rogers said on his Badlands podcast that he thinks Fant will fit in perfectly to the offensive system, the outside zone scheme. It’s nice to look forward to something. I couldn't care for Sherman. He talks too much. Allen Robinson fits the bill, no question. If not him, Corey Davis or Keelan Cole could work. Thurney or Andrews could work there. Fant likely stays but he is incredibly inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Bobby816 said: When hired he didn't plan on trading Adams and getting 2 extra 1st rounders. So that changes things. Getting rid of Adams because of potential large contract. That fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Quote Douglas added: “We spoke to some tremendous coaches, but Rob is the right partner and leader for us. His vision for this team aligns with what we have been working to establish here the last two years.” Does it mean Jets stick with drafts and average spent FAs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, JetsandI said: When hired, JD planned to develop the roster via drafts not FA. Year 1 showed that. Now, we the fans expect Jets to revert back to aggressive FA, starting with a trade for Watson? If JD follows that then he is weak. That is crazy to think JD's vision abruptly changed after one freaking year. When was the last time a 25 year old top 5 QB hit the market? This is pretty much an unprecedented situation no one saw coming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Bobby816 said: But they hold all the leverage. It’s not like he’s in a final year of his deal or something. He just signed a deal. Is he sitting out indefinitely? No. So they hold the cards As far as I know, Watson did not even request a trade. But when he does, if he does, Houston loses the leverage and they have until the draft or sooner to make the determination. They will not wait until after the draft and lose the #2 pick. If Houston feels Watson will hold out or create a cancerous locker room they will move him for the best deal. A deal only we can offer. The difference in opinion here is that I value that #2 pick as two mid to late FRP so by that logic, we would be giving 3FRP for Watson. Houston is not getting a top QB prospect in the 20’s. If all our FRP were later in the draft then I would not mind as much. But #2 and most likely a top 15 next year is worth much more than 3FRP in the 20’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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