notthatbluestuff Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Who is the better QB right now - or, if you prefer, which of them do you take on your team as a one-year rental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Matt Ryan. He is a former MVP and had his team up big in the Superbowl before Kyle decided to not run the ball and the Falcons eventually lost to Belichick/Brady and the Pats. Now its unfair to think Stafford as a lesser QB because we havent seen him with a Kyle or a McVay type coach. When he had a decent to good coach in Caldwell the Lions did win 9-11 games. But Ill take Ryan because I saw what he can do with a legit offensive mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Ryan has been consistently better than Stafford across their careers. He’s getting close enough to the end that maybe Stafford will pass him this year, but until I actually see Matt Stafford pass him, I’ll continue to go with Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 MATT STAFFORD BABY LOLOLOL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Matt Ryan. Watch him tear the league up again with a different OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Matt Ryan. Watch him tear the league up again with a different OC. You already know my answer as a Falcon fan on this lol. Now with that said Arthur Smith's scheme is a ton like Shanny's in it being a wide zone scheme with tons of motion and multiple plays coming out of the same formation look. Thats literally what made ryan a MVP is that same exact type of scheme so if anyone is going to get him back to where he was it would be a scheme like Smiths without getting Shanny back. Now with that said i seen Stafford got 2 1st's a 3rd and Goff. What kind of goodies could we get from Ryan ya think if we traded and took a QB at 4 if he's better than stafford like people on here are saying lol. Edited January 31, 2021 by FalconFan13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said: You already know my answer as a Falcon fan on this lol. Now with that said Arthur Smith's scheme is a ton like Shanny's in it being a wide zone scheme with tons of motion and multiple plays coming out of the same formation look. Thats literally what made ryan a MVP is that same exact type of scheme so if anyone is going to get him back to where he was it would be a scheme like Smiths without getting Shanny back. Now with that said i seen Stafford got 2 1st's a 3rd and Goff. What kind of goodies could we get from Ryan ya think if we traded and took a QB at 4 if he's better than stafford like people on here are saying lol. I keep tellin people.. the two years Ryan had a great OC: 2016, and 2018, he tore the league apart both years. Mahomes would look average with Dirk Koetter, no doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Matt Ryan. Stafford gets a lot of pity because he played in Detroit. He's a just a solid QB with a cannon arm though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 11 hours ago, FalconFan13 said: You already know my answer as a Falcon fan on this lol. Now with that said Arthur Smith's scheme is a ton like Shanny's in it being a wide zone scheme with tons of motion and multiple plays coming out of the same formation look. Thats literally what made ryan a MVP is that same exact type of scheme so if anyone is going to get him back to where he was it would be a scheme like Smiths without getting Shanny back. Now with that said i seen Stafford got 2 1st's a 3rd and Goff. What kind of goodies could we get from Ryan ya think if we traded and took a QB at 4 if he's better than stafford like people on here are saying lol. To be clear, I think Ryan is the better player, and the Colts, Patriots, and Niners would be crazy to not at least call and kick the tires on seeing if the Falcons would be open to hearing offers. Bear in mind though, the Lions had to take Goff, and Stafford is 3 years younger. That’s why the compensation was as good as it was. I’d probably still offer a couple of 1sts for him if I felt like I was a QB away, but I don’t know that I’d go much higher than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 This is difficult. Not that I don't think Matt Ryan is a good QB because he clearly is, but I'm not convinced that if you didn't switch their teams, Stafford wouldn't have been able to have the same success and productivity (heck, even as of now, it isn't like their numbers are that much different). Stafford has had weapons, but they pale in comparison to what Ryan has had throughout his career. If I had to choose, I would say Matt Ryan because he's been a little more consistent throughout his career. But I don't think there is a wrong answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Not likely winning anything meaningful with either one as your QB at this point in their careers. If I had to do a 1 year rental though I would probably go with Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 im taking stafford over Ryan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 This is tough for me because while Ryan has always been the better player, seems like every Falcons game I catch the dude has a dead arm. And I can’t see that improving as he ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Archimedes said: To be clear, I think Ryan is the better player, and the Colts, Patriots, and Niners would be crazy to not at least call and kick the tires on seeing if the Falcons would be open to hearing offers. Bear in mind though, the Lions had to take Goff, and Stafford is 3 years younger. That’s why the compensation was as good as it was. I’d probably still offer a couple of 1sts for him if I felt like I was a QB away, but I don’t know that I’d go much higher than that. Dude a couple of 1st's isn't a bad offer at all considering if you go to the Falcons board half the Falcon fans are arguing we might not could get a 2nd for him lol. I don't want to move on from Ryan yet but i feel if the right QB fell to us and we were offered a couple of 1st's im thinking extremely hard about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Stafford. We’ve never seen Stafford with an elite offensive mind, we’ve seen Ryan with one. Now Stafford has his chance with one. What’s more he’s younger and Ryan’s arm talent was never great and he’s getting older. It’s close enough, but I feel confident going with the younger QB who has better traits and an elite offensive mind to guide those traits over Ryan in a similar circumstance... which both are sort of in at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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