John232 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, rudyZ said: Can we please throw him the ball, like, 40-50 times next year? We're clearly not getting production from our HBs catching out of the backfield, but we could get some from our FB who is a superb pass catcher, yet he's used as an angle blocker and a decoy for the most part. He's a better TE2 than any TE2 we could sign, in my opinion. Let's just use him more. From what I recall, they do try but our Backup QBs are especially bad at getting the ball out to RBs or in time. But the lack of usage Juice sees considering his receiving ability is pretty infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J-ALL-DAY Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: @ForgeAround 1.5-2M cap hit only in year one? Sound about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Doesn't look like a bad deal IMO. We can get out of it when the money really starts picking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, J-ALL-DAY said: @ForgeAround 1.5-2M cap hit only in year one? Sound about right? ABout 1.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, GW21 said: Doesn't look like a bad deal IMO. We can get out of it when the money really starts picking up. Its a pretty awesome structure for the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Paraag always gets us to over react lol 🤣 but always saves the day until we restructure the contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Not sure how accurate Spotrac is, but it looks like we could get out of the Juice deal in 2024 with only a $1.6 mil dead cap hit about $6 mil in cap savings. They position it as a 3 yr deal with getting out of the last 2 years pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, 49erurtaza said: Paraag always gets us to over react lol 🤣 but always saves the day until we restructure the contract. This is partially why I wasn't really worried about the numbers when they came out. These contracts always look way worse than they really are. The key to this is to cut ties when we've built in our outs instead of restructuring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Seriously though...it's a really nice structure for as critical as I was of the deal. Its basically 2 years, 7.5 million. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Forge said: Seriously though...it's a really nice structure for as critical as I was of the deal. Its basically 2 years, 7.5 million. *Kneels before Paraag* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Year Cap Number Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $27,000,000 2021 $2,275,000 $9,600,000 ($7,325,000) 2022 📝 $2,958,750 $7,725,000 ($4,766,250) 2023 $6,588,750 $5,266,250 $1,322,500 2024 $7,588,750 $2,677,500 $4,911,250 2025 $7,588,750 $1,338,750 $6,250,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justone2 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Always a good thing to wait till the detals come out with our contracts. Basically a two year deal where we spread the cap hit to an extra year that we can pick up or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudyZ Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Looks like a great contract for us. He won't see these later years, at least not under their current form. So they're a big whole lot of fluff, like in the good ol' days. At this price, it's almost a no-brainer to keep him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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