MWil23 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Barmore and Onwuzurike I've never seen Onwuzurike play to be fair. But when I see Marvin Wilson as a consensus top DT prospect in the class, I can only imagine what most of the others are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: An interesting tidbit I heard today from Daniel Jeremiah was that he has 2 DT’s in his top 70 and that this is the worst DT class he’s seen since he started evaluating in like ‘03. I don’t get it. If you’re looking for Aaron Donald types, okay. If you want a run stuffer, this class has those. If you want a pass rusher, this class has those. There’s just no 2 way DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Other than CB, the defensive players as a whole are weak. If not for Horn and Surtain, the entire top 15 could be offensive picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I don’t get it. If you’re looking for Aaron Donald types, okay. If you want a run stuffer, this class has those. If you want a pass rusher, this class has those. There’s just no 2 way DT. I think that’s the issue for him, a 2 down run stuffer isn’t a terribly valuable player and easily found day 2-3 in most drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Other than CB, the defensive players as a whole are weak. If not for Horn and Surtain, the entire top 15 could be offensive picks. I think the off ball linebackers are pretty good. 3-4 OLB or “edge” guys are good, but there isn’t a high end 4-3 base end. The best edge guys are smaller. corners are good. Tackles are one dimensional. Safeties are mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaWg_LB. Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 1:36 PM, ditchdigger said: Watch us draft Creed Humphrey at 26. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 1:03 PM, MWil23 said: I've never seen Onwuzurike play to be fair. But when I see Marvin Wilson as a consensus top DT prospect in the class, I can only imagine what most of the others are like. You should watch him I actually really like him a lot. He’s more dynamic than Ballmore in my opinion. Great movement skills and great with his hands. If he fell to our pick in the 2nd we should rejoice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 When Berry trades for Gilmore and drafts Asante Samuel Jr >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginaldm9 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, candyman93 said: When Berry trades for Gilmore and drafts Asante Samuel Jr >>>>>> Unless Greedy and Ward are already on the IR (plausible) I think that’s resource overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Reginaldm9 said: Unless Greedy and Ward are already on the IR (plausible) I think that’s resource overkill. I’m giving up on Greedy, but I understand your point. I want a LOB / No Fly Zone secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1. A Draft Jok at 26 1. B. Draft a top 3 corner at 26 2. A. Trade down a short distance draft Jamin Davis 2. B. Trade down to the 2and draft Asante Samuel jnr and get a linebacker in the 2nd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: 1. A Draft Jok at 26 1. B. Draft a top 3 corner at 26 2. A. Trade down a short distance draft Jamin Davis 2. B. Trade down to the 2and draft Asante Samuel jnr and get a linebacker in the 2nd. The only top 5 corners that will be there include Farley (damaged goods, imo), Newsome (damage waiting to happen) and Samuel (a runt), so I rule out 1.B. I like Davis a lot but if it means passing on JOK, 2.A. is a no go. Likewise, 2.B. is a no go because of the aforementioned Samuel. Has to be 1.A...JOK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 3 hours ago, bruceb said: The only top 5 corners that will be there include Farley (damaged goods, imo), Newsome (damage waiting to happen) and Samuel (a runt), so I rule out 1.B. I like Davis a lot but if it means passing on JOK, 2.A. is a no go. Likewise, 2.B. is a no go because of the aforementioned Samuel. Has to be 1.A...JOK! I'd only take Davis if jo isnt their. I'd draft samuel in the 2nd and a bigger corner in the 3rd. It takes a lot of dbs to complete our roster, I want another two good good corners we need to be 5 deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: I'd only take Davis if jo isnt their. I'd draft samuel in the 2nd and a bigger corner in the 3rd. I’ll be honest, I doubt he makes it to the second, let alone our second. His size isn’t nearly as big of a concern as people are making it out to be. It’s not ideal, but he is physical and a solid tackler. 4 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: It takes a lot of dbs to complete our roster, I want another two good good corners we need to be 5 deep We need 4 corners and 4 safeties imo at a min that you feel really good about. As of now I think we have 2 corners (No one should feel good about Greedy) and 3 safeties. There’s still a good bit of work to do there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Some of this is rehashed but the more I read and listen to I definitely do not want any of these players at 26: Barmore - the best of the bad? Newsome - another china doll to add to our CB room Farley - liked him a lot until I read into the back surgeries...back injuries generally do not get better Collins - doesn't fit what we apparently want to do at all Phillips - let him go make music Bateman - nice, safe unexciting pick Oweh - been burned once to often with Penn State DL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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