NCOUGHMAN Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 4:04 PM, NYRaider said: Jacobs was banged up and we ran him into the ground early in the season.Β Lol look at josh now still banged up week 5Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 12:53 PM, CaliforniaKid7 said: Gladly revisit this. You said book it that he'll be a G by year two so I'm excited to see that play out! @BayRaider's guarantee didn't even have to wait a quarter of the season to come to pass.Β Good call, my man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 4/29/2021 at 11:31 PM, RaidersAreOne said: Β These alone are proof that Mayock has no clue about running a football team.Β 1. Ego. "He's going to start at RT for us day 1.". Well, he did because you had to start him there, not because he should have. It was controversial for a reason, you pogue.Β 2. Unwillingness to learn. Same has happened every year. Did your homework eh? Well you still failed.Β 3. Denialism. "Let's face it, we want to run the ball with Josh Jacobs...we want to be a power football team.". That's great if you're playing Madden. But Jacobs is never healthy and hardly effective. Our interior OL is pathetically weak. And Leatherwood isn't even a particularly sound run blocker. This offense has run 100% through Carr. As it should. You don't build a franchise around a RB. Especially not one with few elite traits that can't stay healthy. RT was a need, but Mayock goes out of the way to justify poor picks.Β 4. He was the highest rated player? Then your scouting skills suck. I've said it before, if your highest rated players always wind up being lackluster reaches, that's a problem. With some of the guys left on the board, this is just absolutely inexcusable. It was inexcusable at the time, it's inexcusable now.Β Why does he still have a job?Β 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: These alone are proof that Mayock has no clue about running a football team.Β 1. Ego. "He's going to start at RT for us day 1.". Well, he did because you had to start him there, not because he should have. It was controversial for a reason, you pogue.Β 2. Unwillingness to learn. Same has happened every year. Did your homework eh? Well you still failed.Β 3. Denialism. "Let's face it, we want to run the ball with Josh Jacobs...we want to be a power football team.". That's great if you're playing Madden. But Jacobs is never healthy and hardly effective. Our interior OL is pathetically weak. And Leatherwood isn't even a particularly sound run blocker. This offense has run 100% through Carr. As it should. You don't build a franchise around a RB. Especially not one with few elite traits that can't stay healthy. RT was a need, but Mayock goes out of the way to justify poor picks.Β 4. He was the highest rated player? Then your scouting skills suck. I've said it before, if your highest rated players always wind up being lackluster reaches, that's a problem. With some of the guys left on the board, this is just absolutely inexcusable. It was inexcusable at the time, it's inexcusable now.Β Why does he still have a job?Β I thought we were zone blocking team. What happened to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: @BayRaider's guarantee didn't even have to wait a quarter of the season to come to pass.Β Good call, my man. Meh. Iβm no one special. Iβm just better than Mayock/Gruden/Cable which isnβt hard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeremy408 said: I thought we were zone blocking team. What happened to that? I don't think Mayock would know the difference lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, BayRaider said: Meh. Iβm no one special. Iβm just better than Mayock/Gruden/Cable which isnβt hard. Pretty sad, huh.Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 4/29/2021 at 7:41 PM, BayRaider said: Same thing as Bowden here. Mayock and Jon thought Bowden was a RB.Β Everyone else on the planet, coaches, GMβs, fans of ALL teams, draft analysts, EVERYONE else on the planet knew Bowden was a WR in the NFL.Β Β Mayock and Gruden think Leatherwood is a RT.Β Β EVERYONE, all teams, all coaches, all GMβs, all fans of all teams, all draft analysts, EVERYONE knows Leatherwood is a G.U.A.R.D.Β Β Heβs a GUARD.Β Β You guys will show optimism as a defense mechanism. Donβt.Β Β Heβs a GUARD.Β Β GUARD. Lol I was so mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Meh. Iβm no one special. Iβm just better than Mayock/Gruden/Cable which isnβt hard. Been saying it for years that the posters on this board could do a better job making personnel decisions than our team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Man weβve drafted a DE that has been a healthy scratch, a dime CB, and a RG in the first round the past 3 years.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: Why does he still have a job?Β Have to consider here however that Gruden has final say over the roster. All these players have GrudensΒ fingerprints on them. Seen as feisty, nasty, tough guys. Like "true Raiders" as the outdated clichΓ© goes.Β This is what happens when your coach is given ultimately power and he hires a yes man GM. You draft Gruden grinders over players with plus athletic ability and skills to develop.Β Β 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Have to consider here however that Gruden has final say over the roster. All these players have GrudensΒ fingerprints on them. Seen as feisty, nasty, tough guys. Like "true Raiders" as the outdated clichΓ© goes.Β This is what happens when your coach is given ultimately power and he hires a yes man GM. You draft Gruden grinders over players with plus athletic ability and skills to develop.Β Β Mutually beneficial relationship that they were both aware of going in. Mayock would be the scapegoat if things went sour or John's picks busted, and Gruden lets him do later rounds so he can point to Crosby/Renfrow/etc as his guys should he get axed and want to go to another front office orΒ back to draft coverage. In the meantime they both get paid and ensures John doesn't have heat directly applied to his seat and can get another "GM" for remainder of his contract Edited October 8, 2021 by Dodo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: These alone are proof that Mayock has no clue about running a football team.Β The fact that we've consistently went into the draft with major holes has killed us. We could've signed a stop gap veteran RT in free agency but instead put all of our faith in Leatherwood. We also could've signed a veteran edge player in 2019 but instead put all of our faith in Ferrell.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The fact that we've consistently went into the draft with major holes has killed us. We could've signed a stop gap veteran RT in free agency but instead put all of our faith in Leatherwood. We also could've signed a veteran edge player in 2019 but instead put all of our faith in Ferrell.Β Yeah....a Dutch engineering company couldn't even keep these holes plugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 16 hours ago, BayRaider said: Meh. Iβm no one special. Iβm just better than Mayock/Gruden/Cable which isnβt hard. You did think Ferrell was a good pick though?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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