Brady vs Jordan for 2nd greatest North American Athlete of all-time

[DannyB]

On 5/3/2021 at 9:30 PM, Blackstar12 said:

This is a timeless conversation that'll never be properly answered. Each are the GOATS of their sports why can't people leave it at that. 

Perhaps because the discussion itself can be interesting and enlightening, and never needs to arrive at a definitive consensus in order to have value.

[TheEagle]

Jordan, Brady, Gretzky

I'd like to take the time to point out how great Mike Trout has been. He's finished top 5 in MVP in every full seasons he's played. (He only played 40 games his rookie year.) That's 9 years in a row and counting. He's leading baseball in OBP, SLG, and OPS, so he's well on his way to 10. Too bad one player can't carry a team to a title in baseball like other team sports.

He was called up as a 19-year-old, so this is only his age 29 season.

Edited May 16, 2021 by TheEagle

[Split the Sticks]

All I can say is, what a tough question. Brady is still playing, too. But it is hard to say no matter where Tom ends up at retirement.

People tend to go for "the world of what's happening now" so that gives Brady and edge. But I don't know, and I'm a huge Brady/Patriot fan

[CP3MVP]

Why did it take Jordan so long to win compared to other all time greats, not just in sports in his own league? He didn’t get to a conference title game until year 5 and didn’t get to the Finals and win until year 7.

 

They made the playoffs in year 2  and 3 but that was because the bottom of the East was so trash. They were 20 games under .500 In 86 and 2 games below in 87.

[SBLIII]

1 hour ago, CP3MVP said:

Why did it take Jordan so long to win compared to other all time greats, not just in sports in his own league? He didn’t get to a conference title game until year 5 and didn’t get to the Finals and win until year 7.

 

They made the playoffs in year 2  and 3 but that was because the bottom of the East was so trash. They were 20 games under .500 In 86 and 2 games below in 87.

He needed Pippen to get past big, bad Pistons.

[lancerman]

1 hour ago, CP3MVP said:

Why did it take Jordan so long to win compared to other all time greats, not just in sports in his own league? He didn’t get to a conference title game until year 5 and didn’t get to the Finals and win until year 7.

 

They made the playoffs in year 2  and 3 but that was because the bottom of the East was so trash. They were 20 games under .500 In 86 and 2 games below in 87.

Because the Celtics and Pistons were really good and he basically needed them to age out. If he did get past them, he would have had the same issue with the showtime Lakers. 
 

TLDR: he needed certain teams to decline. 

[SteelKing728]

Yeah give me superstar Jordan....Love.

[JohnChimpo]

10 hours ago, CP3MVP said:

Why did it take Jordan so long to win compared to other all time greats, not just in sports in his own league? He didn’t get to a conference title game until year 5 and didn’t get to the Finals and win until year 7.

 

They made the playoffs in year 2  and 3 but that was because the bottom of the East was so trash. They were 20 games under .500 In 86 and 2 games below in 87.

He started 7 games in 85-86 due to injury. They were 50-32 in 87-88. He was so good that the Pistons developed the “Jordan Rules” to stop him. Basically, the strategy was: beat him up and win the game because no one else on the team was capable of stepping up until Pippen.