NYRaider Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 @MrOaktown_56 @ronjon1990 @roi34 @Frankie2Gunz Alabama doesn't produce QB's, yet Mac Jones is performing better and winning more then Derek Carr? Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: He's a true sophomore playing behind a bad offensive line having one of the greatest seasons in college football history. If you don't like Bryce, you must think every QB prospect in college football sucks. Imagine knowing so little about football that you have the balls to say Alabama has a "bad" offensive line 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: @MrOaktown_56 @ronjon1990 @roi34 @Frankie2Gunz Alabama doesn't produce QB's, yet Mac Jones is performing better and winning more then Derek Carr? Hmmm... I'm not saying bryce young can't be really good. I am just saying bama is a factory. Don't lump me into this LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, roi34 said: only when they go to bama.. hurts.. tua both amazing college qbs meh nflers Mac Jones? How many QB's had Oregon produced before Herbert? How many QB's had Clemson produced before Watson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: @MrOaktown_56 @ronjon1990 @roi34 @Frankie2Gunz Alabama doesn't produce QB's, yet Mac Jones is performing better and winning more then Derek Carr? Hmmm... you mean with a top5 coach who won 10 games with Matt Cassel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: I didn't like Herbert. He's been a surprise and a massive exception to the rule. Didn't you say Spencer Rattler was gonna go 1st overall? Exactly. I remember him saying he was going to buy a Rattler Raider jersey as he was advocating we move on from Carr, mortgage our future (multiple 1sts) and trade up for Rattler. That idea has not aged well LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Imagine knowing so little about football that you have the balls to say Alabama has a "bad" offensive line 😂😂😂😂😂😂 You claimed to have watched the Auburn game and think their offensive line is good? A game where Bryce was sacked 7 times, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: @MrOaktown_56 @ronjon1990 @roi34 @Frankie2Gunz Alabama doesn't produce QB's, yet Mac Jones is performing better and winning more then Derek Carr? Hmmm... Mac jones has the GOAT coach, you probably didnt even know our coaches name at the start of the season, but of course, WIns and losses are all on QBs so I will stop arguing haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Imagine saying Alabama has a "bad" O-line and Mac Jones is the standard bearor of successful QB. Man, I want some of whatever you're smoking, chief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, Frankie2Gunz said: I remember him saying he was going to buy a Rattler Raider jersey as he was advocating we move on from Carr, mortgage our future (multiple 1sts) and trade up for Rattler. That idea has not aged well LOL Rattler may still be a good NFL prospect, likely transferring to UCLA. Kyler Murray was considered a non-prospect, transferred and went #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: You claimed to have watched the Auburn game and think their offensive line is good? A game where Bryce was sacked 7 times, lol. Yeah. If that was Carr you would've been ripping your hair out that he didn't throw the ball away and took the sack to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaulthe1st Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: I was just about to say... They very publicly DID give up on Tua lol And yet he has still found a way to lead them on a 5 game winning streak. People are so quick to give up on young QB’s these days. If you look at the top 4-5 QB’s over the past 25 years all of them had early struggles or started out as game managers. Peyton Manning - Led the league in picks his rookie year Drew Brees - Chargers replaced him with Rivers Tom Brady - game manager his first 2 years as a starting QB Aaron Rodgers - looked awful in limited snaps and the franchise was unsure about him being the guy after Favre’s final year. Ben Roethlisberger - Game manager first 2-3 years I’m not comparing Tua to these guys but the point is that you should not write off a QB that you spent considerable capital on after 1-2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Imagine saying Alabama has a "bad" O-line and Mac Jones is the standard bearor of successful QB. Man, I want some of whatever you're smoking, chief. https://bamahammer.com/2021/11/29/alabama-football-offensive-line-georgia/ Quote Alabama has given up 36 sacks, which is 3 sacks per game and ranks 112th out of 130 teams in terms of fewest sacks allowed. Keep in mind, Alabama has arguably the most elusive quarterback in the country and has still given up more sacks than every SEC team except LSU and Tennessee. Quote The run blocking has been better than the pass protection, but not by much. Senior running back Brian Robinson Jr. has been effective, but the room has been hit hard by injuries and lacks quality depth. As a whole, the running game has been fairly inconsistent, and ranks 10th in the SEC in yards per game. It will have to improve to make headway on the ground against the nation’s #3 rushing defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, jpaulthe1st said: And yet he has still found a way to lead them on a 5 game winning streak. People are so quick to give up on young QB’s these days. If you look at the top 4-5 QB’s over the past 25 years all of them had early struggles or started out as game managers. Peyton Manning - Led the league in picks his rookie year Drew Brees - Chargers replaced him with Rivers Tom Brady - game manager his first 2 years as a starting QB Aaron Rodgers - looked awful in limited snaps and the franchise was unsure about him being the guy after Favre’s final year. Ben Roethlisberger - Game manager first 2-3 years I’m not comparing Tua to these guys but the point is that you should not write off a QB that you spent considerable capital on after 1-2 years. When Tua becomes a game manager, we can revisit. He hasn't even achieved that status yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Yeah. If that was Carr you would've been ripping your hair out that he didn't throw the ball away and took the sack to begin with. And you think Alabama that has given up more sacks then almost any team in college football and was one of the worst teams in the SEC at running the ball has a good offensive line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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