MWil23 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Scoundrel said: I think part of it is his personality as well. A guy with an “interesting personality” as well apparently is CJ Henderson and look how that has played out. Counterpoint: Myles Garrett is a nerd who loves dinosaurs and look how that's worked out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Thibs is my Edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: I think part of it is his personality as well. A guy with an “interesting personality” as well apparently is CJ Henderson and look how that has played out. And on the other side, Myles Garrett has an interesting personality. Really into anime and gaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Counterpoint: Myles Garrett is a nerd who loves dinosaurs and look how that's worked out 3 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: And on the other side, Myles Garrett has an interesting personality. Really into anime and gaming. Being a nerd is not the interesting I was referring to. Everyone’s a nerd. All of you are nerds. Knew a couple guys in the league that were the biggest nerds I ever met. Interesting is overly manic/full of oneself/withdrawn to an alienating level/lack of accountability/etc. any of those would be concerning and more. I tried to use “interesting” to pass less judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Scoundrel said: Being a nerd is not the interesting I was referring to. Everyone’s a nerd. All of you are nerds. Knew a couple guys in the league that were the biggest nerds I ever met. Interesting is overly manic/full of oneself/withdrawn to an alienating level/lack of accountability/etc. any of those would be concerning and more. I tried to use “interesting” to pass less judgement. Have we seen any of those with Kayvon? Cause I agree that would be more concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Interesting is overly manic/full of oneself/withdrawn to an alienating level/lack of accountability/etc I guess I personally don't see that with him at all. But aside from him, La'el Collins even before the "murder stuff" was on a list of people LSU coaches would not talk to scouts about that's had a lot of success in the league. And tbh, you just described Kyler Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Have we seen any of those with Kayvon? Cause I agree that would be more concerning. I’ve never met him. I haven’t spoken to his coaches. I’ve seen talk of full of himself and over confident in his abilities. Rather have a guy myself that is over confident than under confident. Read somewhere (I’d have to look for it) that he said he lagged on some plays to set up others. But there are other ways to counter moves. And that’s over thinking and not sure how many coaches would like that. Might have been the Ray Lewis interview? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: I’ve never met him. I haven’t spoken to his coaches. I’ve seen talk of full of himself and over confident in his abilities. Rather have a guy myself that is over confident than under confident. Read somewhere (I’d have to look for it) that he said he lagged on some plays to set up others. But there are other ways to counter moves. And that’s over thinking and not sure how many coaches would like that. Might have been the Ray Lewis interview? I’m not saying the guy should be out of the top 10. But I do think it’s unwise to ignore some of the red flags without digging more as a team which I know they all supposedly do. And just passing it off as hey Myles likes dinosaurs. A guy doesn’t put up 27 reps at 254 and have no work ethic. His work ethic is not a big concern for me really looking at everything under a microscope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: I’ve never met him. I haven’t spoken to his coaches. I’ve seen talk of full of himself and over confident in his abilities. Rather have a guy myself that is over confident than under confident. Read somewhere (I’d have to look for it) that he said he lagged on some plays to set up others. But there are other ways to counter moves. And that’s over thinking and not sure how many coaches would like that. Might have been the Ray Lewis interview? Ed Reed acknowledged intentionally running a coverage wrong once to trick Peyton Manning into throwing an INT later on. https://www.businessinsider.com/belichick-ed-reed-peyton-manning-interception-2019-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Ed Reed acknowledged intentionally running a coverage wrong once to trick Peyton Manning into throwing an INT later on. https://www.businessinsider.com/belichick-ed-reed-peyton-manning-interception-2019-2 I mean that’s cool. That’s a play by a hall of fame player though. If Kayvon is freelancing and doing that now I don’t know. Might fit into this talk of full of himself and over confident in his abilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Scoundrel said: I mean that’s cool. That’s a play by a hall of fame player though. If Kayvon is freelancing and doing that now I don’t know. I thought that was the interview you were referring to. Without being in their training room/coaching staff, it's impossible to say if he's intentionally not giving effort or playing hurt. https://www.businessinsider.com/jon-gruden-myles-garrett-not-best-player-in-draft-2017-4 https://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/3/14745070/myles-garrett-scouting-report-2017-nfl-draft-breakdown-film-review?scrlybrkr=bb893888 There were "effort" concerns with Myles as well to protect his draft status/stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicfre2011 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Any updated takes on Cameron Thomas? He seemed to have alot of steam earlier in the process and now seemed to get lost in the mix behind some of the other second-tier EDGE prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I thought that was the interview you were referring to. Without being in their training room/coaching staff, it's impossible to say if he's intentionally not giving effort or playing hurt. https://www.businessinsider.com/jon-gruden-myles-garrett-not-best-player-in-draft-2017-4 https://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/3/14745070/myles-garrett-scouting-report-2017-nfl-draft-breakdown-film-review?scrlybrkr=bb893888 There were "effort" concerns with Myles as well to protect his draft status/stock. Do you think skipping the combine field work because it was a long day is protecting his draft stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Do you think skipping the combine field work because it was a long day is protecting his draft stock? If he felt like he wouldn't test well and was fatigued because he's not in football shape and/or because of his injury this past year, absolutely. Perhaps it is a sign of more, or perhaps he showed up, hit the bench press, ran the 40, and said "I checked the athletic boxes, I'm done." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, MWil23 said: If he felt like he wouldn't test well and was fatigued because he's not in football shape and/or because of his injury this past year, absolutely. Perhaps it is a sign of more, or perhaps he showed up, hit the bench press, ran the 40, and said "I checked the athletic boxes, I'm done." I mean he told multiple people he was doing the whole thing just the day before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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