TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Still doesn't look as bad as Alex Smith year 1. Troy Aikman got shut out I believe three times his rookie season. Jaguars need to just hit on their next head coach. At least have someone that is serious about turning the team around. I wouldn't be concerned as a Jags fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braylon Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I'm with the people calling for the Jags to give Kellen Moore a shot. Give Lawrence the help of one of the creative, young minds in the league. As far as I'm concerned, given the dysfunction he dealt with this year, nothing we've seen out of him this year should be held against him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I think Lawrence needs a better HC. Start there, was he a bad pick? Maybe, but I think hiring someone like Byron Leftwich could change all of that. Urban Meyer was horrible for Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Their offense is one of the worst I’ve seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, CP3MVP said: Their offense is one of the worst I’ve seen It is indeed very bad. James Robinson is good. Marvin Jones is washed. Shenault can’t run a route beyond 10 yards and can’t catch. Treadwell has been solid. Tavon Austin sucks. Jaydon Mickens sucks. The TE’s are meh. 5 drops yesterday, bad throws from Trevor, zero creativity on offense. You would think if you had guys struggling to get separation, you would scheme them open, not with this offense. It’s basically go beat your guy 1V1 and nobody can. Bad rookie QB, bad receivers, average O-Line, bad playcalling. In our last 8 games, we have only scored more than 14 points, twice. Twice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: It is indeed very bad. James Robinson is good. Marvin Jones is washed. Shenault can’t run a route beyond 10 yards and can’t catch. Treadwell has been solid. Tavon Austin sucks. Jaydon Mickens sucks. The TE’s are meh. 5 drops yesterday, bad throws from Trevor, zero creativity on offense. You would think if you had guys struggling to get separation, you would scheme them open, not with this offense. It’s basically go beat your guy 1V1 and nobody can. Bad rookie QB, bad receivers, average O-Line, bad playcalling. In our last 8 games, we have only scored more than 14 points, twice. Twice! Seems like every game is just a miserable struggle to score one touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, notthatbluestuff said: Seems like every game is just a miserable struggle to score one touchdown. You could say that. This week a Jets defense that is giving up 32 PPG in their last 8 games, goes up against a Jaguars offense that is averaging 10 PPG in their last 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 What would T Law go for in a trade right now? And yes, he's not getting Josh Rosen'd after 1 season, just curious what you think he'd get in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jeezla said: What would T Law go for in a trade right now? And yes, he's not getting Josh Rosen'd after 1 season, just curious what you think he'd get in a trade. I was told they wouldn’t trade him for pre scandal Deshaun Watson LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: Seems like every game is just a miserable struggle to score one touchdown. it’s definitely thought sledding when you’re trotting this out at key times throughout the game There’s nothing to this offense at all. Legitimately the worst group of skill players I’ve ever seen on a team, particularly given James Robinson hasn’t been used much all year and has been injured down the stretch since we lost other guys. If this team doesn’t have a top 3 WR group with every single player next year not currently active for this team, it’s a failure of significant proportions. I’ll give a pass for bringing back Chark if it’s alongside a big FA and a 1st-3rd round WR, but the rest of these guys should be fighting for 4th-6th on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jeezla said: What would T Law go for in a trade right now? And yes, he's not getting Josh Rosen'd after 1 season, just curious what you think he'd get in a trade. Multiple 1sts. Far too much upside. I think most teams would still evaluate him as a prospect rather than strictly off his 1 year in Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, bigbadbuff said: I was told they wouldn’t trade him for pre scandal Deshaun Watson LOL I too like to strip out all the context of a message for a good laugh. Every single Jaguars fan that you would have heard this from said “we’re not bailing out a division rival by gifting them a franchise QB.” The argument was never made that Trevor was assuredly better than Watson, but that giving Trevor to the Texans would make our division that much harder for the next *however long he’s in the league,* and that we wouldn’t be the ones to bail them out. We’d rather have an elite prospect and the Texans have a bunch of lottery picks that they had made bad choices with recently rather than have a sure thing and the Texans have an elite prospect. It was further noted that if our team was ever going to be good, it was going to require us to actually be good at evaluating and developing players, so if we built a staff and roster that was unable to make Trevor the player he is supposed to be, trading for Watson would do nothing other than make us a middling team that Watson would ask to be traded from in 2 years. But go off, my dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I almost never say it's good to give up on a rookie (nor SHOULD they under any circumstances) but Lawrence has been an absolute disaster this year. He has been unusually and disappointingly bad not even taking into account he was the 1st overall pick and hyped up as the next generational QB prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMT Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, ILoveTheVikings said: I almost never say it's good to give up on a rookie (nor SHOULD they under any circumstances) but Lawrence has been an absolute disaster this year. He has been unusually and disappointingly bad not even taking into account he was the 1st overall pick and hyped up as the next generational QB prospect. Lawrence was way overhyped as a prospect but still, it's hard to fault him at all for having a bad year. Meyer was possibly the worst coaching hire of all time and his skill position players aren't good. Like at all. Still some of the stuff you see on film is concerning, but let's see him with a real NFL coach and some real WRs before passing judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, MagicMT said: Lawrence was way overhyped as a prospect but still, it's hard to fault him at all for having a bad year. Meyer was possibly the worst coaching hire of all time and his skill position players aren't good. Like at all. Still some of the stuff you see on film is concerning, but let's see him with a real NFL coach and some real WRs before passing judgment. I just hope he hasn’t already been ruined. Has he taken a huge amount of hits/sacks? Can Jags fans chime in on that? How’s his protection been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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