drfrey13 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: Just spitballing here, but I wonder if Cable is feeling the heat now that Gruden is out of the picture? Like maybe he had an oh-sh!t-I-might-be-next-if-I-don’t-start-coaching-these-guys-up moment? I know correlation doesn’t always imply causation and the improved playcalling has no doubt helped, but the O-line has been noticeably better since Gruden disappeared. Cable was Gruden's boot licker so he felt safe no matter what with Gruden around. Now with him gone we will see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: Just spitballing here, but I wonder if Cable is feeling the heat now that Gruden is out of the picture? Like maybe he had an oh-sh!t-I-might-be-next-if-I-don’t-start-coaching-these-guys-up moment? I know correlation doesn’t always imply causation and the improved playcalling has no doubt helped, but the O-line has been noticeably better since Gruden disappeared. The entire team and staff looks refreshed without Gruden around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Cool shot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: Just spitballing here, but I wonder if Cable is feeling the heat now that Gruden is out of the picture? Like maybe he had an oh-sh!t-I-might-be-next-if-I-don’t-start-coaching-these-guys-up moment? I know correlation doesn’t always imply causation and the improved playcalling has no doubt helped, but the O-line has been noticeably better since Gruden disappeared. I can definitely see that being the case. But it could also just be that some of the young players (3/5 of the line) is getting more experience both playing in general and playing together. Like if Andre James played the way he did yesterday on week one I would have no problem with him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derptacular Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: Yes but it goes both ways. If you can't run normally then play action doesn't really work because the defense doesn't respect the run. Play action also can struggle to work well when you're not good at pass blocking because it takes more time to develop. The Oline has actually gotten much better at actual run blocking and actual pass blocking. theres a good amount of data that suggests that while unintuitive, the effectiveness of the run game doesnt really impact the effectiveness of play-action. obviously if you just run play-action every single play and never run the ball, it wont keep working, but the data is pretty fascinating play-action helps pass protection because in addition to holding the linebackers, it also holds the edge guys who need to make sure they keep their gap integrity instead of rushing upfield. it very much protects the offensive linemen from having to pass protect. it doesnt ask the guys to pass protect better, because its presenting conflict to the pass rushers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Cool shot Boys got some hops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 That photographer caught that perfectly. Looks like they are floating in air, especially Hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BayRaider said: That photographer caught that perfectly. Looks like they are floating in air, especially Hurts. You mean, Smith lol. I did think it was Hurts at first as well Edited October 26, 2021 by BobbyPhil1781 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: You mean, Smith lol. I did think it was Hurts at first as well Whoops, def looks like Hurts from a distance. I’m not familiar with Eagle jersey numbers either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Cool shot I'm so happy for Ruggs. One of the best up and coming deep threats in the NFL and he's having the time of his life with his friend and 5-2 Las Vegas Raiders team. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Derptacular said: theres a good amount of data that suggests that while unintuitive, the effectiveness of the run game doesnt really impact the effectiveness of play-action. obviously if you just run play-action every single play and never run the ball, it wont keep working, but the data is pretty fascinating play-action helps pass protection because in addition to holding the linebackers, it also holds the edge guys who need to make sure they keep their gap integrity instead of rushing upfield. it very much protects the offensive linemen from having to pass protect. it doesnt ask the guys to pass protect better, because its presenting conflict to the pass rushers You don’t just come out the gate running play action. You run the ball first and if it’s affective then you can run play action because then the linebackers actually bite on it but when you don’t run the ball well the deal line sells out rather than holding their gap integrity. And then there’s some dlines (like ours for example) Who are coached to sell out on every play Regardless. Point being you’re not just gonna run play action and it be effective if the run game isn’t working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 13 hours ago, IdigtheRaiders! said: Just spitballing here, but I wonder if Cable is feeling the heat now that Gruden is out of the picture? Like maybe he had an oh-sh!t-I-might-be-next-if-I-don’t-start-coaching-these-guys-up moment? I know correlation doesn’t always imply causation and the improved playcalling has no doubt helped, but the O-line has been noticeably better since Gruden disappeared. This staff seems pretty tight knit, so I doubt it. Likely a combination of 2 things, the players gelling into their roles and the previous 2 weeks were against defenses/teams that seem to be giving up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 13 hours ago, NYRaider said: The entire team and staff looks refreshed without Gruden around. Let's not overreact on 2 games against terrible opponents. Denver with a lame duck coach and Philly with a rookie HC going nowhere. Great to see them handle business. But this team under Bisaccia has yet to be punched in the face yet to see how they punch back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 So Josh Jacobs posted on his IG that he doesn’t have a chest injury. So what the heck happened 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, SimonGruber said: So Josh Jacobs posted on his IG that he doesn’t have a chest injury. So what the heck happened 🤔 Does he not have previous for this sort of thing? I seem to remember something last year where he used social media to deny a statement the team/coaches had made about him. Am I just mis-remembering or did this actually happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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