Scalamania Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Consider another "alpha" career with a very physical job description: can anyone picture a senior military officer slapping an junior enlisted? Huge yikes. Dismissing this as being "ok" because "it's football" is just mindless. Can I picture a higher ranking military office (or enlisted) slapping someone because what they're doing is detrimental to the job at hand. I sure can - I've seen it happen, I've watched an LT grab ahold of an E-2 because we were messing around while working post at a VSA. This was also 15ish years ago so the times have changed but your example is not that hard to imagine happening. ...at least from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_is_the_best Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: You either: a. Don’t understand power dynamics b. Don’t realize that a boss has power over his subordinates c. Don’t know that BA is his boss. d. All of the above. All 4 options are wrong. Impressive! It's fashionable these days to treat ordinary encounters as power struggles, but it's not that complicated. Yes I know what power dynamics are. Just because someone is your boss doesn't mean all their actions can be explained by 'power dynamics.' Edited January 20, 2022 by Joe_is_the_best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scalamania said: Can I picture a higher ranking military office (or enlisted) slapping someone because what they're doing is detrimental to the job at hand. I sure can - I've seen it happen, I've watched an LT grab ahold of an E-2 because we were messing around while working post at a VSA. This was also 15ish years ago so the times have changed but your example is not that hard to imagine happening. ...at least from experience. grabbing =/= slapping c'mon now people this isn't an issue of physical contact. It's an issue of one of the most disrespectful types of physical contact. Grabbing someone (by a collar, a face mask, whatever) to "get in their face" and literally TALK to them is lightyears different than slapping someone in the back of the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeTheBallDeep Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 This isn't a huge deal to me but I do wonder with all the drama they have had this year, this, and the injuries if it might just be too much for even Tom Brady to overcome this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Joe_is_the_best said: All 4 options are wrong. Impressive! It's fashionable these days to treat ordinary encounters as power struggles, but it's not that complicated. Yes I know what power dynamics are. Just because someone is your boss doesn't mean all their actions can be explained by 'power dynamics.' I was with you until I remembered that the situation we’re discussing is one where someone was struck by their superior while at work. I’m pretty sure that qualifies as one of those situations where power dynamics comes into play lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Joe_is_the_best said: All 4 options are wrong. Impressive! It's fashionable these days to treat ordinary encounters as power struggles, but it's not that complicated. Yes I know what power dynamics are. Just because someone is your boss doesn't mean all their actions can be explained by 'power dynamics.' "power dynamics" shape literally every interaction every person ever has...I don't think you could possibly be more wrong. I think you're conflating "power dynamics" with "power statics" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_is_the_best Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, incognito_man said: "power dynamics" shape literally every interaction every person ever has...I don't think you could possibly be more wrong. I think you're conflating "power dynamics" with "power statics" What's "power statics"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Joe_is_the_best said: What's "power statics"? I think you have to rub your feet on the carpet for that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: To be clear, the only reason your a senior manager is because of your age. Everyone else who does your job is just a manager. I spend 75% of my time here managing this website... and still win awards for productivity and innovation. I'm not just A Manager... I'm THE Manager. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_is_the_best Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: I spend 75% of my time here managing this website... and still win awards for productivity and innovation. I'm not just A Manager... I'm THE Manager. Managing or mismanaging? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe_is_the_best said: Managing or mismanaging? ...yes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Joe_is_the_best said: What's "power statics"? Do you think that, if the player had slapped BA in the head, that the impact on his life would be of equal magnitude? Alternately: do you think BA would slap his GM in the back of the head? And, if so, would there be worse fallout for him than slapping this player? Edited January 20, 2022 by incognito_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I think it is hilarious that the only outrage is coming from the posts defending Arians and saying ish like, "I can't believe the outrage!" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Scalamania said: Can I picture a higher ranking military office (or enlisted) slapping someone because what they're doing is detrimental to the job at hand. I sure can - I've seen it happen, I've watched an LT grab ahold of an E-2 because we were messing around while working post at a VSA. This was also 15ish years ago so the times have changed but your example is not that hard to imagine happening. ...at least from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: Grabbing a face-mask to force a stern vocal warning is lightyears away from slapping someone in the back in the head. c'mon now... I don't have too much of a dog in this fight, but I'll take the head slap. I hate when people try to move my head for me, kinda freaks me out. I've had to tell significant others to stop; I certainly wouldn't want a grown man steering me around by the mask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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