Jdolphins18 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Does Coach Payton have any weaknesses? What I mean is we’re there any reoccurring soft spots on the team? For example was there any specific group like O-Line or LB’s that were horrible for years on end or maybe he hired a new OC/DC every year or 2? Just curious, asking for a friend really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Dallas....kick McCarthy into touch and pick up Sean immediately. I've heard he's always had a thing for Dallas. He'd be great for you Yes and send three 1st rd picks to NO please for each of the years they have him under contract. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Castillo Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: Bruh, that still doesn't make it respectable. But it does make it hypocritical singling out 1 team and lose draft picks for it. Same thing with the covid protocols. 1 team and 1 team only lost picks. With a few teams being multiple offenders. Many speculate this is part of the reason he is burnt out. There are numerous instances where only 1 team (Saints) get punished while others slide. And dont get me wrong my rant is not saying Saints shouldnt be punished. I just want to see teams treated equal across the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 He's going to do Campbell a solid and become an offensive consultant for the Lions on a one year deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Sauce Castillo said: But it does make it hypocritical singling out 1 team and lose draft picks for it. Same thing with the covid protocols. 1 team and 1 team only lost picks. With a few teams being multiple offenders. Many speculate this is part of the reason he is burnt out. There are numerous instances where only 1 team (Saints) get punished while others slide. And dont get me wrong my rant is not saying Saints shouldnt be punished. I just want to see teams treated equal across the board. I agree with you about singling out one team. Anyone who gets caught should get the same punishment. As far as the Covid protocols, rules are rules (even if they are ridiculously stupid rules as these have been), and they need to be enforced equally. Payton absolutely deserved the punishment he received for Bountygate, but I agree with you that punishment should be meted out equally for anyone who is caught doing the same thing. Favoritism = injustice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATcha Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jdolphins18 said: Does Coach Payton have any weaknesses? What I mean is we’re there any reoccurring soft spots on the team? For example was there any specific group like O-Line or LB’s that were horrible for years on end or maybe he hired a new OC/DC every year or 2? Just curious, asking for a friend really. Defense optional. Up until the last 2 to 3 years, the Saints defense under Payton was horrible. Offense would put up 40, and the defense would give up 41. He also has a habit of abandoning the run in favor of going pass happy, even if it's working. He will also outsmart himself from time to time. (Because he's an offensive guru genius 🙄) 4th and inches? Guaranteed to see some exotic complicated play that goes for -1 🤦♂️ Overall great coach though, and his trolling is 5 star gold. He will definitely be missed. Can't really blame him though. The Saints have kicked this can down the road for a decade. There's no can left to kick anymore. Edited January 26, 2022 by SWATcha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I do not appreciate the ending of all these eras. Even ones like this that I’ve actively rooted against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jdolphins18 said: Does Coach Payton have any weaknesses? What I mean is we’re there any reoccurring soft spots on the team? For example was there any specific group like O-Line or LB’s that were horrible for years on end or maybe he hired a new OC/DC every year or 2? Just curious, asking for a friend really. Recently he's a lot more rounded and lets his staff do their jobs. He isn't the control freak he used to be. That has helped cover up his weaknesses. He's an ******* who hates the refs and they hate him, he hates Goodell and Goodell hates him. The Saints weren't cut any slack and Payton won't ever be, wherever he goes. That's definitely something that will always be working against him. However when he's your coach you'll overlook it, or you should. You'll laugh when he calls a timeout to scream at an official, and when he does it again 6 minutes later cause he feels like maybe the ref didn't fully grasp the gravity of the situation. His biggest weakness is his "vision" players. He has these fever dreams or something and gets completely hooked on a prospect, or a prototype he's looking for. Everyone has seen it with Taysom but there were lots of lesser known guys who Payton tried forcing into a role or position because that was the "vision" he had for them. He's done it forever. If he's in a presser during the offseason and starts talking about his vision, you can almost certainly write that player off as a soon to be disappointment. Edited January 27, 2022 by Dome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, SWATcha said: He also has a habit of abandoning the run in favor of going pass happy, even if it's working. I think he's broken himself of this, other than 2019 when Brees had the best passer rating of his career. 2021 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 4th 2020 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 5th 2019 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 20th (Brees highest passer rating) 2018 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 5th 2018 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 13th Edited January 27, 2022 by Dome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jdolphins18 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Dome said: Recently he's a lot more rounded and lets his staff do their jobs. He isn't the control freak he used to be. That has helped cover up his weaknesses. He's an ******* who hates the refs and they hate him, he hates Goodell and Goodell hates him. The Saints weren't cut any slack and Payton won't ever be, wherever he goes. That's definitely something that will always be working against him. However when he's your coach you'll overlook it, or you should. You'll laugh when he calls a timeout to scream at an official, and when he does it again 6 minutes later cause he feels like maybe the ref didn't fully grasp the gravity of the situation. His biggest weakness is his "vision" players. He has these fever dreams or something and gets completely hooked on a prospect, or a prototype he's looking for. Everyone has seen it with Taysom but there were lots of lesser known guys who Payton tried forcing into a role or position because that was the "vision" he had for them. He's done it forever. If he's in a presser during the offseason and starts talking about his vision, you can almost certainly write that player off as a soon to be disappointment. I am perfectly ok with him hating Goodell(more like Baddell), thank you for the insight! It is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATcha Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 16 hours ago, Dome said: I think he's broken himself of this, other than 2019 when Brees had the best passer rating of his career. 2021 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 4th 2020 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 5th 2019 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 20th (Brees highest passer rating) 2018 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 5th 2018 Rushing Play Percentage Rank: 13th Maybe. Those are also all noodle arm Brees years and this year was, well, this year. I feel like his normal play calling style may of been somewhat crippled lol. It would be interesting to see what he would/could do with an offense like the Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATcha Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Dome said: You'll laugh when he calls a timeout to scream at an official, and when he does it again 6 minutes later cause he feels like maybe the ref didn't fully grasp the gravity of the situation. 😂😂😂 Just thinking of all the times this happened made me LOL while reading this. Thanks @Dome Just note, after you laugh, you'll cry soon after when you're in the 4th wishing you had those timeouts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 So is the thought that it's Dennis Allen's gig if he wants it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Does anyone know if Payton still being under contract precludes him from being a consultant for another team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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