Towerbridge Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I saw this on Twitter: Tom Brady is actually 0-10 in the Super Bowl: 01: Tuck Rule 03: Greatest Show on Turf was washed 04: Playoff Reid 07: Owned by Eli 11: Owned by Eli again 14: Pete Carroll is a bozo 16: 28-3 17:Outplayed by Foles 18: Defense gave up 3 points 20: Chiefs entire O-line was injured 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 If that really is it, congrats GOAT. Most revered/hated QB I've ever had the pleasure/pain of watching, as a Ravens fan. Some of his records may come down in time due to the hyper inflated offensive state of the league, but to do what he did for the length of time he did is just insane. That level of longevity I don't think anyone will be able to achieve ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Leading the league in TD passes and calling it a career would just about be the most boss way possible to go out, next to winning a SB. I hope he retires (he's already the Goat, another SB ain't changing anything), but wouldn't be shocked if he came back for one more. If Tom had no kids, no question he would play another season or 3. The desire/obsession to win/compete is going to nip at him all offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Towerbridge said: Why 45? I believe it was the age that Tom House and others told Brady he could play til before he had a steep physical decline. I can’t find the original article though. Maybe this one? https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2014/12/10/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-age-fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Towerbridge said: I saw this on Twitter: Tom Brady is actually 0-10 in the Super Bowl: 01: Tuck Rule 03: Greatest Show on Turf was washed 04: Playoff Reid 07: Owned by Eli 11: Owned by Eli again 14: Pete Carroll is a bozo 16: 28-3 17:Outplayed by Foles 18: Defense gave up 3 points 20: Chiefs entire O-line was injured There is a lot of really, reallllly stupid stuff on Twitter. Count this among the stupid stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Towerbridge said: I saw this on Twitter: Tom Brady is actually 0-10 in the Super Bowl: 01: Tuck Rule 03: Greatest Show on Turf was washed 04: Playoff Reid 07: Owned by Eli 11: Owned by Eli again 14: Pete Carroll is a bozo 16: 28-3 17:Outplayed by Foles 18: Defense gave up 3 points 20: Chiefs entire O-line was injured Same thing with Joe montana 1982: Montana threw for only 157 yards and a touchdown. Thats terrible. Bengals turned the ball over 4 times, and the 49ers settled gor 4 fgs 1984: : At a June 2015 charity event in Pittsburgh, former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Joe Montana confessed that, in the 80s, his "offensive lineman used to spray silicon on their shirts." Montana said they continued the practice "until they got caught." 1988: Former San Francisco wide receiver Jerry Rice admitted in an ESPN video history on the evolution of wide receiver gloves that he illegally used stickum on his own gloves to make his job easier. 1989: Former San Francisco wide receiver Jerry Rice admitted in an ESPN video history on the evolution of wide receiver gloves that he illegally used stickum on his own gloves to make his job easier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 https://yourteamcheats.com/superbowls/ Every SB is tainted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: You aren't following the argument closely. Your argument is just bad dude. Like not for nothing the entire premise is basically you deciding there is only one criteria and rigidly sticking to it and then ignoring the overwhelming case he has for himself. It's an extremely iffy subjective standard you are placing to make a disqualifier. It's not even an evaluation. You just wanted to find one argument you could use to dismiss the whole debate. Even the details don't hold up. You used All Pros. Okay.... that's an award that writers literally vote on and give. Like I said, those same writers got together at the end of two different decades, got to consider all the evidence and criteria they had, and said Brady was the best QB over the guys they gave All Pros and MVP's to during those years. That's literally the source of your evidence disagreeing with you. It's a logically flawed argument and it falls apart the minute you hold a microscope to it. Also contextually, it also is designed to penalize Brady for playing in a golden age of QB's despite the fact that in the hardest era for a QB to standout he still outdid everyone in history. Like Jordan couldn't even string together two consecutive MVP seasons, how would his career have looked if Magic, Bird, Kobe, and Lebron all had the cores of their career coincide with his peak? Because Brady had pretty much all of Manning, Rodgers, and Brees careers line up well within his career, and then had guys like Farve and Warner playing a good solid chunk in the first half, and then the last 4 years had Mahomes (and is the reason Mahomes is lacking two rings). And that's just super elite guys. Let alone the Bens and Rivers of the world. The best players during Jordan's peak were Hakeem, Malone and Barkley. Those guys are really good. But it's not like he his peak years were lined up with anything close to what Brady did (and Brady won more titles than him and only has 2 less MVP's). He was fortunate he took off after Bird and Magic declined and before Kobe took off and Lebron entered the league. It's just a very flawed argument that isn't looking to engage with any information and just wants a conveniant excuse to end the argument. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I’ve been watching the NFL since I was seven years old. It started in 1994 when the WFT went 3-13. I think which means Brady has been in the NFL for 22 of the 28 seasons I’ve watched football. That is wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 33 minutes ago, lancerman said: Your argument is just bad dude. Like not for nothing the entire premise is basically you deciding there is only one criteria and rigidly sticking to it and then ignoring the overwhelming case he has for himself. It's an extremely iffy subjective standard you are placing to make a disqualifier. It's not even an evaluation. You just wanted to find one argument you could use to dismiss the whole debate. Even the details don't hold up. You used All Pros. Okay.... that's an award that writers literally vote on and give. Like I said, those same writers got together at the end of two different decades, got to consider all the evidence and criteria they had, and said Brady was the best QB over the guys they gave All Pros and MVP's to during those years. That's literally the source of your evidence disagreeing with you. It's a logically flawed argument and it falls apart the minute you hold a microscope to it. Also contextually, it also is designed to penalize Brady for playing in a golden age of QB's despite the fact that in the hardest era for a QB to standout he still outdid everyone in history. Like Jordan couldn't even string together two consecutive MVP seasons, how would his career have looked if Magic, Bird, Kobe, and Lebron all had the cores of their career coincide with his peak? Because Brady had pretty much all of Manning, Rodgers, and Brees careers line up well within his career, and then had guys like Farve and Warner playing a good solid chunk in the first half, and then the last 4 years had Mahomes (and is the reason Mahomes is lacking two rings). And that's just super elite guys. Let alone the Bens and Rivers of the world. The best players during Jordan's peak were Hakeem, Malone and Barkley. Those guys are really good. But it's not like he his peak years were lined up with anything close to what Brady did (and Brady won more titles than him and only has 2 less MVP's). He was fortunate he took off after Bird and Magic declined and before Kobe took off and Lebron entered the league. It's just a very flawed argument that isn't looking to engage with any information and just wants a conveniant excuse to end the argument. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Towerbridge said: What will it take for Brady to be the GOAT? What does he need to do. Nothing. Brady gets more credit for his team's success than anyone I have ever seen. It is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Also looks like the Madden curse claimed another career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: Top contenders are LT, Reggie White, and Jim Brown. EDIT: Probably Rice too. Why the changing criteria for GOAT? Should be based on # of all pro selection Rank Player AP1 Years Tm 1 Jerry Rice+ 10 1985-2004 sfo Jim Otto+ 10 1960-1974 rai 3 Ron Mix+ 9 1960-1971 sdg Anthony Munoz+ 9 1980-1992 cin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, lancerman said: Your argument is just bad dude. Like not for nothing the entire premise is basically you deciding there is only one criteria and rigidly sticking to it and then ignoring the overwhelming case he has for himself. It's an extremely iffy subjective standard you are placing to make a disqualifier. It's not even an evaluation. You just wanted to find one argument you could use to dismiss the whole debate. Even the details don't hold up. You used All Pros. Okay.... that's an award that writers literally vote on and give. Like I said, those same writers got together at the end of two different decades, got to consider all the evidence and criteria they had, and said Brady was the best QB over the guys they gave All Pros and MVP's to during those years. That's literally the source of your evidence disagreeing with you. It's a logically flawed argument and it falls apart the minute you hold a microscope to it. Also contextually, it also is designed to penalize Brady for playing in a golden age of QB's despite the fact that in the hardest era for a QB to standout he still outdid everyone in history. Like Jordan couldn't even string together two consecutive MVP seasons, how would his career have looked if Magic, Bird, Kobe, and Lebron all had the cores of their career coincide with his peak? Because Brady had pretty much all of Manning, Rodgers, and Brees careers line up well within his career, and then had guys like Farve and Warner playing a good solid chunk in the first half, and then the last 4 years had Mahomes (and is the reason Mahomes is lacking two rings). And that's just super elite guys. Let alone the Bens and Rivers of the world. The best players during Jordan's peak were Hakeem, Malone and Barkley. Those guys are really good. But it's not like he his peak years were lined up with anything close to what Brady did (and Brady won more titles than him and only has 2 less MVP's). He was fortunate he took off after Bird and Magic declined and before Kobe took off and Lebron entered the league. It's just a very flawed argument that isn't looking to engage with any information and just wants a conveniant excuse to end the argument. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: 5 hours ago, Scoundrel said: How do you feel about Josh Allen? Which one? You might be the most obtuse human being I've ever interacted with... and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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