MikeT14 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Need to restart the "making room for Watson" moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Need to restart the "making room for Watson" moves. They are making room for Jimmy.. not sure if thats better or worse Edit- it's better Edited March 16, 2022 by adamq 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 4 hours ago, FalconFan13 said: lol yeah ok if you say so Most of ryans career he was top 7 to 8 in the nfl in the rankings. Even back when Romo was playing him and Ryan would go back and forth for the 7th spot on most lists. Stafford has NEVER been in that same top 8 to 10 listing until lately. Ryan might not have had the cannon of an arm like Stafford did but like Manning his brain more than made up for it. His rankings by ANY/A 18 18 19 5 10 1 18 11 18 Should I keep going? Or is the point made that most seasons he wasnt a top 5, top 10 or in some years not even a top 15 QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Any team trading for Ryan shouldn't have to worry about the cap hit. He'd only be owed $7.5M this year and $28M next. Which for a franchise caliber QB is actually a steal. So that's not really a worry if you're his new team. I do think a 1st is reasonable for him. I get some of you don't because you have this warped idea that Ryan isn't actually good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, scar988 said: Any team trading for Ryan shouldn't have to worry about the cap hit. He'd only be owed $7.5M this year and $28M next. Which for a franchise caliber QB is actually a steal. So that's not really a worry if you're his new team. I do think a 1st is reasonable for him. I get some of you don't because you have this warped idea that Ryan isn't actually good. I have that warped idea, and I’m aware it’s warped. strange phenomena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, scar988 said: I get some of you don't because you have this warped idea that Ryan isn't actually good. He's about to be 37 years old and while still good, definitely isn't elite. There's very few teams where trading a 1st for him makes sense. To me, you have to be where the Rams were last year for it to make sense. A team who is on the cusp of a Super Bowl appearance. Or at the very least on the cusp of making a lot of noise in your conference. To me the only teams it would have made sense for are the Saints (Falcons would never do this), Steelers, Dolphins, WFT, and Philadelphia. Steelers just signed Trubsiky. WFT traded for Wentz. Philly and Miami would probably prefer to just ride it out with Hurts and Tua respectively. I just don't see the fit where a team would trade a 1st for him. What team do you have in mind that would do that? I'm just not seeing it. If the Browns moved on from Mayfield and traded a 1st for Ryan as a replacement, to me it would be one of the dumbest moves that I can remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, iknowcool said: He's about to be 37 years old and while still good, definitely isn't elite. There's very few teams where trading a 1st for him makes sense. To me, you have to be where the Rams were last year for it to make sense. A team who is on the cusp of a Super Bowl appearance. Or at the very least on the cusp of making a lot of noise in your conference. To me the only teams it would have made sense for are the Saints (Falcons would never do this), Steelers, Dolphins, WFT, and Philadelphia. Steelers just signed Trubsiky. WFT traded for Wentz. Philly and Miami would probably prefer to just ride it out with Hurts and Tua respectively. I just don't see the fit where a team would trade a 1st for him. What team do you have in mind that would do that? I'm just not seeing it. If the Browns moved on from Mayfield and traded a 1st for Ryan as a replacement, to me it would be one of the dumbest moves that I can remember. Colts make sense. Not sure he puts them over the top, but he's their best option this offseason But, they don't have a 1st. Unless the Colts are willing to offer & Falcons are willing to take a future 1 Edited March 16, 2022 by 49ersfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 49ersfan said: Colts make sense. Not sure he puts them over the top, but he's their best option this offseason But, they don't have a 1st. Unless the Colts are willing to offer & Falcons are willing to take a future 1 That's what I'm saying. There really isn't an ideal team out there who is in a good position to trade for Ryan. At least where it wouldn't be both a bad situation for Ryan and a bad trade for the team. Colts aren't going to trade another 1st for a QB, at least not someone like Ryan. And this isn't me slighting Ryan, he's solid... but he's about to be 37. I find it hard to believe there is a team out there willing to trade a 1st for him. Maybe the 49ers would if they didn't already have Lance, but they do. EDIT - Ryan also has a NTC. So limits the teams who could go out and get him. There is absolutely no way in my mind he goes for a 1st and I'd be willing to bet on that. Even Wentz had the advantage of being 28 at the time the Colts traded for him. You could sell a fanbase on the fact that if he got back to his former self, you had a franchise QB for 5 or so years. If I'm wrong I'll accept it but I don't see it happening. I don't see the team where it makes sense. Edited March 16, 2022 by iknowcool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Wow,, the ANY/A smack down! Who is 17,11,1,1 the last 4 years? 17 and 11 is a joke if you pretend hard enough. So Jimmy G is close to identical in ANY/A rankings with Rodgers on 3 of the last 4 years. Did they meet in the playoffs by chance? Who won? Including his backup years without starts in NE is pathetic. Look at Rodgers filling his pants in years 1-3 and tell me how relevant it is to anything. BTW, if those NE years count them Jimmy is a 2x SB champ QB by continuation of this dishonest logic. Edited March 16, 2022 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 So far, the Browns, Seahawks, Bengals and Bucs are winning the offseason Browns: Grant and Cooper > Landry. Seahawks: get rid of Wilson and get some good draft ammunition while his stock is high enough. Bucs: Brady coming back, and I love the Gage signing Bengals: getting that Oline help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Malfatron said: So far, the Browns, Seahawks, Bengals and Bucs are winning the offseason Browns: Grant and Cooper > Landry. Seahawks: get rid of Wilson and get some good draft ammunition while his stock is high enough. Bucs: Brady coming back, and I love the Gage signing Bengals: getting that Oline help Last week the Bucs QBs were 2 guys I can’t remember. Gabbert maybe? Old bad dude and young meh dude. Yeah, Bucs had a hell of a week. Green Bay is doing very well with cap shenanigans as long as they sign Davante. I really like what Seattle did but not for a few years. I love what Denver has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, adamq said: They are making room for Jimmy.. not sure if thats better or worse Edit- it's better @ET80 my own team making room for Jimmy G was not the way this was supposed to go. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malfatron Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Signing a bunch of fodder and letting Myles Jack go is certainly a choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Signing a bunch of fodder and letting Myles Jack go is certainly a choice I think they're definitely better, but I'd also be surprised if half those guys are on the team for the 3rd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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