swede700 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: Trey Lance is enticing. Mac Jones isn't. At all. To me Mac Jones, in the long-term, is nothing more than a passable starting QB/very good backup QB. He is an Alex Smith/Andy Dalton-type QB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 O’Connell: “I’m very excited about Kirk in Year Two in this system. It’s been a while since Kirk’s been able to say that he gets to come back in the same system he ran previously with the same play-caller. I’ve had a lot of great dialogue with him in ways we’re going to look to fine-tune what we did and grow and improve. That will be a big part of 2023 for me, not only as the head coach but as play-caller in our offensive staff.” https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/14/kevin-oconnell-very-excited-about-kirk-cousins-having-second-year-in-same-offense/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Head Coach/OC/QB coach 2018: Zimmer/DeFilippo (fired week 14) Stefanski (Interim OC)/Stefanski/Petzing 2019: Zimmer/Stefanski/K. Kubiak 2020: Zimmer/G. Kubiak/K. Kubiak 2021: Zimmer/K. Kubiak/Janocko 2022: O'Connell/O'Connell (Phillips)/O'Hara 2022: O'Connell/O'Connell (Phillips)/O'Hara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) With Hurts' new deal, Kirk is now 12th in the NFL in average salary...3 spots ahead of Aaron Donald. 🤣 Edited April 17, 2023 by swede700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, swede700 said: With Hurts' new deal, Kirk is now 12th in the NFL in average salary...3 spots ahead of Aaron Donald. 🤣 And people will still complain that he's overpaid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Relax Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: And people will still complain that he's overpaid. No way is Aaron Donald overpaid!! 😎😎 Yes, I know you were referring to Kirk!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelKing728 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 If we could trade up for a QB this year, and Cousins wants us, what's his value? Could we get a 2024 1st for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: If we could trade up for a QB this year, and Cousins wants us, what's his value? Could we get a 2024 1st for him? No. I think the best they could do is a 2nd in 2024. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said: If we could trade up for a QB this year, and Cousins wants us, what's his value? Could we get a 2024 1st for him? Not without an extension in place. Whatever team would want him would have to give up picks and hope he's willing to sign an extension. Sure, they could work that out beforehand, but why would Cousins want to? If the Vikings don't want to extend him, and they can't/won't franchise him, he'll be the #1 Free Agent next year. No question that he'll command $40MM+ on the open market next season. This is even more true when you consider that he's not going to find a better situation on draft night than he is in right now. He'll be in his 2nd year of the KOC offense (and had a pretty good first one) with all the weapons he needs for a huge year to set himself up for an even bigger payday. He's not just going to accept a trade to Houston because his feelings are hurt. The guy has thicker skin than anyone here seems to give him credit for. Edited April 19, 2023 by wcblack34 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: He's not just going to accept a trade to Houston because his feelings are hurt. The guy has thicker skin than anyone here seems to give him credit for. he's shown very savvy business instincts all along, or at least the ability to listen to others who have them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Honestly, the only team that I could see Cousins waiving his NTC for is San Francisco. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 4 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Honestly, the only team that I could see Cousins waiving his NTC for is San Francisco. If they are willing to give him a big extension with alot of guaranteed more money that kicks in before he needs to step foot on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlee Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 17 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: If we could trade up for a QB this year, and Cousins wants us, what's his value? Could we get a 2024 1st for him? Anyone who says anything other than a 1st rounder for Cousins is high. QBs far less capable and talented have garnered more than a 2nd. If a team isn’t willing to give up adequate compensation then you don’t trade him. A second rounder is not enough for Cousins. Not even close. It better be a 2nd rounder plus a 1st rounder plus something else. QBs are very hard to come by, and though he isn’t the greatest, even QBs at his level are difficult to obtain. As I already said, QBs a tier or two below him can get you back a 2nd rounder… Teams don’t just get to trade what’s convenient for themselves. You’re going to trade a lot and you’re going have to lose a lot of capital for him. At the end of the day, I’m not the GM or coach. If they trade him away for laughable compensation, I won’t fight it. I’ll just see what happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Relax Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Now that Brady is retired and Rodgers is in the AFC, after Hurts, who are the best quarterbacks in the NFC? Prescott? Fields? Smith? Carr? Cousins? To me, Kirk is now likely the 2nd best quarterback in the NFC. However, if he played in the AFC, he'd be behind Mahomes, Burrow, Rodgers, Herbert, Allen, Jackson, and after this season, maybe Lawrence, Watson, and Tua would rank ahead of him. I have never seen this kind of unbalanced QB talent between conferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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