hrubes20 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Cappa is better in literally every possible metric. Cappa is better as a run blocker, but Williams is the better pass blocker. Honestly, they aren't altogether than different as players and Miami got Williams for much, much less. 4 minutes ago, ///mcompact said: It wasn’t just the back-breaking penalties that nullified converted 3rd and long plays, he was the crack in the dam that all of the blitzes were targeting. If it was a sack on 3rd down, it was most likely him getting bulldozed. He put on muscle but just wasn’t strong enough to anchor in pass pro. He’s mobile, though. So if you team wants a pulling guard, he’s your guy. Road-grating run blocker? NOPE! He only gave up 1 sack last year. But yeah, he is the type of athletic OL that McD is going to be bringing into Miami. He doesn't use the plodding maulers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, D82 said: Are you sure you aren't a Cowboy fan? cowboy fans would be trying to badmouth him rn, as is tradition when your player signs with another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///mcompact Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: cowboy fans would be trying to badmouth him rn, as is tradition when your player signs with another team. BS. No one is bad mouthing Cedric Wilson. With Cooper, it’s a mixed bag. If Gregory left, it would be a mixed bag as well due to obvious reasons. What always happens in these threads about Cowboys players is Eagles fans take this opportunity talk as much crap about Dallas. Then, the team receiving the player overrated them and uses box stats to support why the player will be a huge upgrade like, don’t bother listening to the people that watched and rewatched every minute of our team. It’s like clockwork. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerica Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, ///mcompact said: It wasn’t just the back-breaking penalties that nullified converted 3rd and long plays, he was the crack in the dam that all of the blitzes were targeting. If it was a sack on 3rd down, it was most likely him getting bulldozed. He put on muscle but just wasn’t strong enough to anchor in pass pro. He’s mobile, though. So if you team wants a pulling guard, he’s your guy. Road-grating run blocker? NOPE! Shanahan offense runs a ZBS, so athletic guys is what’s needed. Good deal, hopefully he can tone down the penalties. Looking at past seasons it doesn’t seem like it’ll be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, ///mcompact said: BS. No one is bad mouthing Cedric Wilson. With Cooper, it’s a mixed bag. If Gregory left, it would be a mixed bag as well due to obvious reasons. What always happens in these threads about Cowboys players is Eagles fans take this opportunity talk as much crap about Dallas. Then, the team receiving the player overrated them and uses box stats to support why the player will be a huge upgrade like, don’t bother listening to the people that watched and rewatched every minute of our team. It’s like clockwork. Gregory did leave. Also, lol. No one is doing that here. Honestly the people who are most positive about Williams seems to be fans of opposing fanbases. A walking turnstile would be an upgrade though over most 2021 Miami linemen, so yeah, I'm pretty optimistic about this being an upgrade. The contract is surprisingly stomachable, too, given what other interior OL are getting so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, hrubes20 said: Cappa is better as a run blocker, but Williams is the better pass blocker. Honestly, they aren't altogether than different as players and Miami got Williams for much, much less. He only gave up 1 sack last year. But yeah, he is the type of athletic OL that McD is going to be bringing into Miami. He doesn't use the plodding maulers. We will just have to disagree as I think Cappa is much better in every regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I’m happy for him. He’s the nephew of a really good friend. He has blemishes but he will be an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 10:59 AM, DefenseWinsChampionships said: He can't be too bad if he was apart of an NFL Offensive Attacked that ranked #1 in both Offensive Yards (1) and Points Scored (1). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 11:23 AM, TheKillerNacho said: cowboy fans would be trying to badmouth him rn, as is tradition when your player signs with another team. There are a lot of takes to make, but this isnt it. Conner sucks. He consistently gave up pressure in key moments. This guy is pretty much hated by everyone who has watched him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: There are a lot of takes to make, but this isnt it. Conner sucks. He consistently gave up pressure in key moments. That means he's an upgrade. He's replacing people that consistently gave up pressure in key moments, and also non-key moments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Go with PFF over partisans. (Williams has been pretty good the last 2 years) Also note that his 15 penalties this year were a horrific number that hurt his team. Laremy Tunsil had 18 in 2019. It did not make him bad and exposed, just sloppy. If he has 10+ penalties again next year then he was a bad signing. If he cleans that up then its probably a good signing. BTW, Cappa and Williams were both ranked 4th of 5 on their lines by PFF, good players around very good or great players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: There are a lot of takes to make, but this isnt it. Conner sucks. He consistently gave up pressure in key moments. This guy is pretty much hated by everyone who has watched him. You seem to agree it's a clear upgrade then - our previous offensive linemen gave up pressure on every play, so I look forward to an OL who only gives up pressure at key moments! (for the record I wasn't singling out your fanbase, in case anyone took it that way; was a general statement/joke, jesus) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 12:23 PM, TheKillerNacho said: cowboy fans would be trying to badmouth him rn, as is tradition when your player signs with another team. No. Wanted McGovern to get a shot, because Williams just wasn't very good and got a lot of penalties. Unfortunately, McGovern was worse. At least we know our LG isn't on our roster, unless we keep La'el Collins and move him to LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: You seem to agree it's a clear upgrade then - our previous offensive linemen gave up pressure on every play, so I look forward to an OL who only gives up pressure at key moments! (for the record I wasn't singling out your fanbase, in case anyone took it that way; was a general statement/joke, jesus) I felt like Doc Holliday last year. We have 2 Connor's for you. Both suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 12:23 PM, TheKillerNacho said: cowboy fans would be trying to badmouth him rn, as is tradition when your player signs with another team. Wilson was a good slot we for us and cashed in. Good for him. We bungled the Gregory negotiations. He is a very talented pass rusher. I wanted him back. His only issue was getting busted for weed. It's legal in Colorado and now only a fine in the NFL, so he's good. Cooper wasn't worth the $20 mil/year. Alot of that had to do with Dak not utilizing him. There's also so many good wrs you can get in the 2nd to 4th rds. They are the new rb . I certainly didn't want us to franchise Schultz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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