Sandy Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Norm said: Everyone who uses the word woke should be grouped together and herded off a cliff But Norm...YOU just used the word woke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Norm said: Everyone who uses the word woke should be grouped together and herded off a cliff Even if I'm using it ironically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Norm said: Everyone who uses the word woke should be grouped together and herded off a cliff Disagree, it describes a particular mindset of a group of people. It's valuable for that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Disagree, it describes a particular mindset of a group of people. It's valuable for that. I agree. However, once a term gets taken into wider use, it really becomes bastardized and loses that meaning. A recent example was the term "Karen." It went from a specific, home owner's association member, let me see the manager, type of woman; to a woman who has any kind of complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Disagree, it describes a particular mindset of a group of people. It's valuable for that. Hope you have a soft landing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ThatJerkDave said: I agree. However, once a term gets taken into wider use, it really becomes bastardized and loses that meaning. A recent example was the term "Karen." It went from a specific, home owner's association member, let me see the manager, type of woman; to a woman who has any kind of complaint. Valid point. I still think of Karen's as the former, but there are many who use it as an excuse to dismiss anyone with a fair gripe. As for "woke", I refuse to let the bigots of the world claim it for negative use. If you want to give me a label that warns others that I believe in equality and acceptance, then I'll proudly accept your label, regardless of your intentions. With that in mind, I still think this draft is a solid B. Edited June 18, 2022 by Sandy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Sandy said: But Norm...YOU just used the word woke. I'm willing to sacrifice my life easily for this cause. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Zach Tom makes this draft for me. He was great at Woke Forest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Sandy said: Valid point. I still think of Karen's as the former, but there are many who use it as an excuse to dismiss anyone with a fair gripe. As for "woke", I refuse to let the bigots of the world claim it for negative use. If you want to give me a label that warns others that I believe in equality and acceptance, then I'll proudly accept your label, regardless of your intentions. With that in mind, I still think this draft is a solid B. Woke definitely is not a positive thing. But again, it is way overused, and once the term has been broadened it has nearly lost all of its meaning. When I hear words like: "woke, Karen, boomer," I pretty much roll my eyes. Same with any "ist" or "ism" or "phobe." Most are just terms to "other" people so that you don't have to argue in good faith. I still am more bullish on this draft. Of course, we did get three of my favorites: Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, and Zach Tom. And I didn't think there was a shot that we would get Devante Wyatt. I also really like what I have seen from Toure and Enagbare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Norm said: Everyone who uses the word woke should be grouped together and herded off a cliff We should cancel them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, incognito_man said: We should cancel them Wokeness is simply empathy toward others not like you. You got a problem with being emphatic to other different people? The opposite is Putinism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Norm said: Everyone who uses the word woke should be grouped together and herded off a cliff Sounds awfully snowflake of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Wokeness is simply empathy toward others not like you. You got a problem with being emphatic to other different people? The opposite is Putinism. Nobody calls anybody woke for being sympathetic to others. People get called Woke derogatively when they insist their cat is transgender or complain that a movie has too many White people in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Wokeness is simply empathy toward others not like you. You got a problem with being emphatic to other different people? The opposite is Putinism. I'm making fun of the people making fun of the people for using "woke". And also anyone who uses "canceled" unironically. Edited June 18, 2022 by incognito_man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: Sounds awfully snowflake of you. And herd the people who use this word off the cliff next to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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