mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, Hunter2_1 said: No, that's not what I'm saying. When did you start watching football closely? I'd love to hear an argument as to how today's young QB's are worse than those of 10 or 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, mcmurtry86 said: Keenum has more reliable weapons and better coaching Or maybe your QB just wasn't as good as you hoped. Many believes everything bounced the Raiders way last season. Now it don't and they are exposed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, mcmurtry86 said: When did you start watching football closely? I'd love to hear an argument as to how today's young QB's are worse than those of 10 or 20 years ago. 99 I think. And I've said my opinion. We're done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, gopherwrestler said: whats wrong with Lynch, Cooper, Crabtree, Cook, and a great offensive line? The Oakland WR's can't catch or get open reliably. Lynch is underused and old (not helpful in the pass game either). Cook is fine but his hands have been notoriously inconsistent his whole career. Cooper and Crabtree are big names. They're not playing well at all (Cooper especially) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, The LBC said: Actually bricks are somewhat commonly used as a tool to help receivers catch. Fred Graves was a big proponent of the technique. Basic premise is that you become so fixated on actually catching the thing with your hands because you don't want to body catch a freaking brick that you can train hands-catching into muscle memory. Didn't know that, but it does make sense. That said...there's no way coaches are still allowed to do that today, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, game3525 said: Man, last week's loss even hurts more after this game. Could be 5-5 and a game back from first in the division. But Chargers gonna Chargers. You guys will be fine. You have a game coming up against the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Danand said: Or maybe your QB just wasn't as good as you hoped. Many believes everything bounced the Raiders way last season. Now it don't and they are exposed? "My QB"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, mcmurtry86 said: The Oakland WR's can't catch or get open reliably. Lynch is underused and old (not helpful in the pass game either). Cook is fine but his hands have been notoriously inconsistent his whole career. Cooper and Crabtree are big names. They're not playing well at all (Cooper especially) Is it the bad throws from Carr or the receivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, game3525 said: Man, last week's loss even hurts more after this game. Could be 5-5 and a game back from first in the division. But Chargers gonna Chargers. Given the state of the AFC, the Chargers could still make it into the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, BroncoSojia said: You guys will be fine. You have a game coming up against the Chiefs. They aren't beating KC. They match up poorly against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, mcmurtry86 said: So things are bleak because there are no sure fire first ballot HOF QB's playing today? When did you start following football closely? The way I interpret it: There hasn't been a period in modern NFL history in which there haven't been multiple first ballot HOF quarterbacks active at once. Right now, with the end in sight for Brady, Brees and Rodgers, people are wondering who the next batch will be, and right now it doesn't look like there's anyone worthy of that mantle aside from maybe Russell Wilson, who'll be 30 next season. If nobody else emerges, it'll be the first period in the Super Bowl era without really great QB play. And I have to wonder if people will tune in to watch a league dominated by Jim Everett and Drew Bledsoe-tier QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, gopherwrestler said: Is it the bad throws from Carr or the receivers? Mostly the receivers. Has Carr been great? No. But his team gives him no help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: Is Keenum a better QB than Derek Carr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, Starless said: The way I interpret it: There hasn't been a period in modern NFL history in which there haven't been multiple first ballot HOF quarterbacks active at once. Right now, with the end in sight for Brady, Brees and Rodgers, people are wondering who the next batch will be, and right now it doesn't look like there's anyone worthy of that mantle aside from maybe Russell Wilson, who'll be 30 next season. If nobody else emerges, it'll be the first period in the Super Bowl era without really great QB play. And I have to wonder if people will tune in to watch a league dominated by Jim Everett and Drew Bledsoe-tier QBs. Guys who were considered first ballot HOF at the time? Or are now considered first ballot HOF QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, gopherwrestler said: Is it the bad throws from Carr or the receivers? I get you're talking about the season as a whole, but how can you say Cooper hasn't been playing well today when he's the only one who hasn't dropped a ball? Not his fault Carr isn't looking his way enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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