Cearbhall Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, swede700 said: Yeah, I don't think anyone questions that...but Jordan is still probably the best one in Vikings' history at doing both (he actually led the team in receptions in both '85 and '86). Jordan was indeed something special. I have trouble judging Vikings from that era because the teams in the mid-eighties are the first that I remember, and I consequently know that I have overinflated them in my mind. I didn't have any perspective at that time to compare them with. I just thought they were the best. It was hard for me to admit that Cris Carter and then Randy Moss were better than Anthony Carter, and that bias towards the 80s is gross enough to cause to me to question if I value anything from the 80s objectively appropriate. By now I am getting used to admitting that WRs on the team are better than my memories of AC, but I still feel like AC in the '87 playoffs was the best performance the team has seen by a WR in a single postseason. My memories of Jordan are super fond, but I am not sure how accurate. Same with Keith Millard. I am glad to see someone else that thinks that Jordan is probably the best TE in Vikings' history. It makes me feel like my memories of that era may not be too skewed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Hock could jump 4 more spots easily this year, probably 5. Edited November 15, 2023 by vike daddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Jordan's dominance in yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: Jordan was indeed something special. I have trouble judging Vikings from that era because the teams in the mid-eighties are the first that I remember, and I consequently know that I have overinflated them in my mind. I didn't have any perspective at that time to compare them with. I just thought they were the best. It was hard for me to admit that Cris Carter and then Randy Moss were better than Anthony Carter, and that bias towards the 80s is gross enough to cause to me to question if I value anything from the 80s objectively appropriate. By now I am getting used to admitting that WRs on the team are better than my memories of AC, but I still feel like AC in the '87 playoffs was the best performance the team has seen by a WR in a single postseason. My memories of Jordan are super fond, but I am not sure how accurate. Same with Keith Millard. I am glad to see someone else that thinks that Jordan is probably the best TE in Vikings' history. It makes me feel like my memories of that era may not be too skewed. The 80s are certainly my first recollection as well...AC may not have been as historically revered as CC and Randy, but he truly elevated the position for this franchise. No offense to Gene Washington, Ahmad Rashad and Sammy White, but AC took it to a whole new level when he arrived from the USFL. He's been grossly underrated in our history (still is #3 in Vikings history in receiving yds). I certainly also would like to think I'm more objective about the 80s teams as well, because there is no love lost for me towards Tommy Kramer (who I believe is vastly overrated in team history), but I know where to put players in the pantheon of mostly pedestrianism, which really is the place to put that decade of the franchise, save for a few guys like AC, Jordan, Zimmerman, Millard, Doleman, Browner and Studwell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Hock could jump 4 more spots easily this year, probably 5. For all of Shiancoe's drop issues, he turned out to be a really nice player for the Vikings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, JDBrocks said: For all of Shiancoe's drop issues, he turned out to be a really nice player for the Vikings. Just need to make sure the cameras aren’t on in the locker room… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 Shouldn't he be lifting weights on a tennis court? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere but why did the surgery happen at the end of January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere but why did the surgery happen at the end of January? They needed to wait until other areas were healed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanVike Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said: Great! That is encouraging so quickly after the surgery. Back when I had my ACL surgery, I was happy to walk relatively straight after 8 weeks. However that was 17 years ago and medicine has advanced quite far since then. For me, it's still encouraging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2000 yard receiving year incoming? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 21 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: 2000 yard receiving year incoming? For Hockenson? I would put the chances of that somewhere between slim and none. But a lot closer to none. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 36 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: 2000 yard receiving year incoming? No he's saving that for JJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 23 hours ago, vikesfan89 said: 2000 yard receiving year incoming? TJ's gonna go AP, AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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