Jeezla Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Also curious if anyone has watched Jer'Zhan Newton from Illinois? A junior, but I think I read he's leading NCAA in QB pressures. 12 tfl and 5.5 sacks on the year. Listed at 6'2" 295. Can't find any video of him like I can with Karl Brooks. Edited November 12, 2022 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 3:13 PM, Jeezla said: Anyone watched Karl Brooks out of Bowling Green? 8 sacks and 13 TFL, but playing against bums. 6'4" 300 lbs, but lines up at DE. Looks fairly athletic. 5th year Sr. I mentioned him last draft season, dude can play regardless of where he plays, I would love to see if he gets invited to the Senior Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: I mentioned him last draft season, dude can play regardless of where he plays, I would love to see if he gets invited to the Senior Bowl. I'll be bummed if he doesn't get a Senior Bowl invite. This dude should not be at the NFLPA Bowl or East West Shrine Bowl based on his stats and his athleticism/size combo. Hopefully he doesn't measure in with T-Rex arms. @Ozzy have you watched him (Karl Brooks) at all? Edited November 14, 2022 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Jeezla said: I'll be bummed if he doesn't get a Senior Bowl invite. This dude should not be at the NFLPA Bowl or East West Shrine Bowl based on his stats and his athleticism/size combo. Hopefully he doesn't measure in with T-Rex arms. @Ozzy have you watched him (Karl Brooks) at all? I have not watched Karl Brooks, honestly watching any MAC guys is hard because it is such a gamble. And players look productive but it is usually because they play such crap competition. Example Ali Fayad last year had 13 sacks and was 4th in the nation on Western Michigan, any clue where he is now? Not in the NFL that is where and he was 4th in the country in sacks so it is tricky with guys in the MAC. Wish they had a quality team to just sit down and watch but not sure that is the case, and I thought Northern Illinois maybe had some guys considering last year but Rudolph is hurt I think so they are pretty suspect without him and Ducker transferred... Newton is good on Illinois, very productive from the interior but he needs more time and hopefully comes back to school for another year. Then again they will lose basically that entire secondary outside of one guy so who knows how good they will be next year. Maybe Newton declares as a RS SOPH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Who are some of the better DT's that will be on the board in rounds 2-4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: Who are some of the better DT's that will be on the board in rounds 2-4? check in after the combine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 5:58 PM, Ozzy said: Example Ali Fayad last year had 13 sacks and was 4th in the nation on Western Michigan, any clue where he is now? Not in the NFL that is where and he was 4th in the country in sacks so it is tricky with guys in the MAC. Wouldn't that be based off his measurables and not the conference he played in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) On 11/15/2022 at 2:40 AM, NYRaider said: Who are some of the better DT's that will be on the board in rounds 2-4? Calijah Kancey, but I need to see him measure in at the combine. Some people will compare his body to Aaron Donald, but he might be 10 lbs lighter than Donald. Edited November 17, 2022 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 2:58 PM, Ozzy said: I have not watched Karl Brooks, honestly watching any MAC guys is hard because it is such a gamble. And players look productive but it is usually because they play such crap competition. Example Ali Fayad last year had 13 sacks and was 4th in the nation on Western Michigan, any clue where he is now? Not in the NFL that is where and he was 4th in the country in sacks so it is tricky with guys in the MAC. Wish they had a quality team to just sit down and watch but not sure that is the case, and I thought Northern Illinois maybe had some guys considering last year but Rudolph is hurt I think so they are pretty suspect without him and Ducker transferred... Newton is good on Illinois, very productive from the interior but he needs more time and hopefully comes back to school for another year. Then again they will lose basically that entire secondary outside of one guy so who knows how good they will be next year. Maybe Newton declares as a RS SOPH. Give Karl Brooks a watch. He's not Ali Fayad. Ali Fayad was a 6'2" 245 pound DE with short arms and a 4.9 40. Karl Brooks looks every bit his listed size of 6'4" 300, and his athleticism seemed to pop on the one viewing I did. He played against UCLA week 1 and Mississippi State in week 4, so hopefully those game cut-ups get uploaded like his central mich game. He might have gotten abused in those games. I dunno. They are the only 2 teams he didn't record a TFL or sack against, but he did get a PBU and 2 hurries vs UCLA and a PBU vs Sippi St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I'm really torn between Tuli and Carter for who the top prospect in this class is. They're both outstanding. I thought it was Carter for a long time, but I'm thinking now that it might be Tuli. Dude was great last year and has been an absolute monster this year. In the end it may really just come down to who does better in the combine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Daniel said: I'm really torn between Tuli and Carter for who the top prospect in this class is. They're both outstanding. I thought it was Carter for a long time, but I'm thinking now that it might be Tuli. Dude was great last year and has been an absolute monster this year. In the end it may really just come down to who does better in the combine. Welcome to my train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Wouldn't that be based off his measurables and not the conference he played in? Possibly Joe Ostman, Sutton Smith, Anthony Winbush were all top 4 in the nation in sacks one year and none were good at all in the NFL and some never even got a chance. I thought Sutton Smith could maybe be something but clearly was way too short, but he was a force off the edge in college. Maxx Crosby is what the best one of late I would guess. But he was a crazy good athlete and timed out insanely well. So yeah if one is physically gifted enough it does not matter, but playing in the MAC one can at times have inflated sack numbers because the OTs they play against are not always that great much less the QBs. Sure Central Michigan had two OL drafted what last year but both of those guys have none done great in the NFL so far but will see how they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Scoundrel said: Welcome to my train. The Tuli-Tyler train? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Daniel said: I'm really torn between Tuli and Carter for who the top prospect in this class is. They're both outstanding. I thought it was Carter for a long time, but I'm thinking now that it might be Tuli. Dude was great last year and has been an absolute monster this year. In the end it may really just come down to who does better in the combine. Nah dude, he needs to slip to the Steelers in round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: Nah dude, he needs to slip to the Steelers in round 2. Not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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