TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, elevators_rule said: Only people who put Montana as the GOAT are 9ers fan. Joe never had to defend the integrity of his balls. Edited January 27, 2023 by TecmoSuperJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, elevators_rule said: Every ring you take away from Mahomes makes it unrealistically more difficult for him to pass Brady. If he never wins another ring, what career stats would he need to reasonably pass Brady as the greatest of all time (which I differentiate from "best" of all time)? It would have to be something absurd, better than he currently has. If he gets 4 rings, that would make him more on pace. This is a nonsensical argument though. There is no metric that says Brady was better than Mahomes for their first six seasons. Not a single one. But Brady had three rings while Mahomes has one. If we extrapolate that pace out, Brady could have won nine rings to Mahomes three and Mahomes is still a SIGNIFICANTLY better player. But we know Brady eventually became a better player on less successful (generally speaking) teams. Funny how that happens. Like nobody would argue that Brady 2000-2005 is better than Brady 2006-2011 - but guess what their ring counts were?? 3 to zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevators_rule Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 9 hours ago, FrantikRam said: This is a nonsensical argument though. There is no metric that says Brady was better than Mahomes for their first six seasons. Not a single one. But Brady had three rings while Mahomes has one. If we extrapolate that pace out, Brady could have won nine rings to Mahomes three and Mahomes is still a SIGNIFICANTLY better player. But we know Brady eventually became a better player on less successful (generally speaking) teams. Funny how that happens. Like nobody would argue that Brady 2000-2005 is better than Brady 2006-2011 - but guess what their ring counts were?? 3 to zip To me GOAT is a combination of achievements+skill. You can't be the GOAT with 0 rings, even if it's a team sport. Best player is different, and skews much more towards just raw ability and personal performance. For example, there's a strong argument that Rodgers has been better than Brady as a QB throughout a lot of his career, but I certainly would never consider Rodgers the GOAT. When you make these comparisons, they are big picture comparisons for a reason. Brady wasn't special 2000-2005 from a skill perspective, but he won rings. 2006-2015 Brady put up the personal performance/dominance. Big picture = Brady GOAT. You remove either of those, and it's perhaps not the case. The earlier in someones career you compare players, the less meaningful it is to make any claims or predictions, which is why it's hard to really speak on behalf of Mahomes in a way other than meaningless fun/banter. If he retired tomorrow, he wouldn't even be HoF. If he plays out the rest of his career and wins 0 more rings, even with an incredible individual career performance, I wouldn't consider him the GOAT by my definition, even if he was a better raw QB than Brady. If he wins a few more rings and keeps up some level of dominance over a period of time, he could very well pass Brady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAA1980 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Saw something about comparing the Bengals to last years Chiefs team and they think last years Chiefs team lost because of fatigue and so well thr Bengals because of one day less rest lol. These are freak athletes they aren’t fatigued from one day less rest. And the Chiefs didn’t lose because of fatigue they lost because of messing up by the goal line before halftime or that game is over Edited January 27, 2023 by AAA1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotanKing Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Hard to find more cringe stuff than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 1:51 PM, AFlaccoSeagulls said: The Bengals have been spectacular the past 3 weeks at manufacturing motivation or manufacturing perceived slights. I can't wait to see what they come up with this week! Everybody's doing it. It's the coolest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 My man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Bettors are starting to realize the panic over Mahomes' ankle may have been overblown: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2023/01/patrick-mahomes-ankle-bengals-chiefs-spread-flips Quote Well, that was short-lived. Whatever concerns the public had over Mahomes’ ankle are dissipating with each new video of him walking, practicing and leaving press conferences without a limp. By Thursday, the line flipped back in favor of the Chiefs, and now it’s exactly where it started at BetMGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: My man. I mean, Romo said the same thing on Sunday and people in the GDT kept insisting that Romo worships Allen and hates Burrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAA1980 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: Bettors are starting to realize the panic over Mahomes' ankle may have been overblown: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2023/01/patrick-mahomes-ankle-bengals-chiefs-spread-flips Mahomes handing the ball off in practice and taking 5 steps without limping during interviews doesn’t prove he’s not gonna be compromised at all Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, AAA1980 said: Mahomes handing the ball off in practice and taking 5 steps without limping during interviews doesn’t prove he’s not gonna be compromised at all Sunday. Well, you’re the one who said the line moved in the first place because Vegas had some super secret inside knowledge about Mahomes’ ankle being really bad. Now it’s favoring the Chiefs and it doesn’t matter, his ankle is still really bad and he’s gonna be really “compromised”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Felt very good about the Bengals but the amount of cockiness is really concerning me. Don’t need to feed the bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizter_Clean10 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, AAA1980 said: Mahomes handing the ball off in practice and taking 5 steps without limping during interviews doesn’t prove he’s not gonna be compromised at all Sunday. Also doesn’t mean he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolmesPriest Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 First time the Chiefs offense takes the field there is gonna be like 150,000 cameras zoomed in on Patrick Mahomes' ankle lol.... and Tony Romo gonna be drawing something on the screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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