sparky151 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 He was listed at 180 in college but weighed 166 at the combine. So maybe the college weight was exaggerated, the way most prospects come in shorter than their college listed heights. Or maybe he just dropped weight to run faster and jump higher for the combine. But even at 180 he'd be among the smallest players in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Good article here from John Sheeran. Analyzes history of the Bengals thresholds/targets at RB. Some interesting names in and out. https://atozsports.com/cincinnati/bengals-identifying-likely-nfl-draft-targets-at-running-back/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: Good article here from John Sheeran. Analyzes history of the Bengals thresholds/targets at RB. Some interesting names in and out. https://atozsports.com/cincinnati/bengals-identifying-likely-nfl-draft-targets-at-running-back/ I really like the work some of these twitter analysts are doing in this segment. They're building up a nice trend history of guys the Bengals will and won't target, and where they've succeeded and where they've failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Mock of what I think they would do more so than what I would do. I'm not sure Wright makes it to 28, but he was there. I could very much see us trading down into the mid to late 30's to pick up an extra 3. We have a lot of targets in that 30-45 range that would be a little rich at 28. 28. Darnell Wright OT Tennessee 60. Julius Brents CB Kansas State 92. Sam LaPorta TE Iowa 131. Roschon Johnson RB Texas 163. Jalen Redmond DT Oklahoma 206. Aidan O'Connell QB Purdue 246. Xazavian Valladay RB Arizona State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: Good article here from John Sheeran. Analyzes history of the Bengals thresholds/targets at RB. Some interesting names in and out. https://atozsports.com/cincinnati/bengals-identifying-likely-nfl-draft-targets-at-running-back/ That's a good article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, THE DUKE said: Mock of what I think they would do more so than what I would do. I'm not sure Wright makes it to 28, but he was there. I could very much see us trading down into the mid to late 30's to pick up an extra 3. We have a lot of targets in that 30-45 range that would be a little rich at 28. 28. Darnell Wright OT Tennessee 60. Julius Brents CB Kansas State 92. Sam LaPorta TE Iowa 131. Roschon Johnson RB Texas 163. Jalen Redmond DT Oklahoma 206. Aidan O'Connell QB Purdue 246. Xazavian Valladay RB Arizona State I'd be happy with that overall. But doubt Wright is still on the board at 28. If we took Dawand Jones instead, it would still be a good draft and hit our needs with value. Though we don't really need a QB as much as a third TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, sparky151 said: I'd be happy with that overall. But doubt Wright is still on the board at 28. If we took Dawand Jones instead, it would still be a good draft and hit our needs with value. Though we don't really need a QB as much as a third TE. We met with O'Connell, where there's smoke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Also met with UCLA QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 They're probably trying to find a few potential UDFA options. I don't know those prospects, but i'm skeptical that they spend draft capital on a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 Looking at the roster as it is right now, a few things seem quite clearer to me leading into the draft QB: Joe Burrow, Jake Browning RB: Joe Mixon, Trayveon Williams, Chris Evans FB: NA XWR: JaMarr Chase, Stanley Morgan YWR: Tee Higgins, Trenton Irwin ZWR: Tyler Boyd, Trent Taylor, Kwamie Lassiter TE: Irv Smith Jr, Devin Asiasi, Nick Bowers, Tanner Hudson LT: Orlando Brown Jr, Jackson Carman, Devin Cochran LG: Cordell Volson, Hakeem Adeniji, Nate Gillam OC: Ted Karras, Trey Hill, Ben Brown RG: Alex Cappa, Max Scharping RT: Jonah Williams, La'el Collins, Cody Ford, D'Ante Smith LDE: Sam Hubbard, Cam Sample, Jeffrey Gunter, Owen Carney UDT: BJ Hill, Zach Carter, Jay Tufele NDT: DJ Reader, Josh Tupou, Domenique Davis RDE: Trey Hendrickson, Joseph Ossai, Tarell Basham, Raymond Johnson III WLB: Logan Wilson, Akeem Davis-Gaither, Keandre Jones MLB: Germaine Pratt, Joe Bachie, Markus Bailey LCB: Chidobe Awuzie, Sidney Davis FS: Nick Scott, Michael Thomas, Yusef Corker SS: Dax Hill, Tycen Anderson SCB: Mike Hilton, Jalen Davis, Allan George RCB: Cam Taylor-Britt, Marvin Tell III K: Evan McPherson P: Drue Chirsman LS: Cal Admoitis While I can very much see us drafting an OT, I think it will be Rd1, Rd2, or not at all. I don't think they are interested in another young body there that isn't a premium prospect to be starting this year or next. We have some depth, even if it is questionable. I absolutely think we take an Interior Offensive Lineman at some point, ideally a center, most likely someone with C/G flexibility. We're going to take a CB on Day 1 or Day 2, I virtually guarantee it. We might take two CB in this draft. I won't be shocked if we take zero defenisve linemen. We fall into the same category as OT. It's going to be early or not at all. A day 3 edge or DT most likely isn't beating out Cam Sample or Zach Carter for reps. It'd help depth I guess, but I can absolutely see Tufele as DT5 heading into this year. The top 4 edges are pretty much written in cement, any draftee has to beat out Basham. We won't be taking a LB, especially if the plan is to extend Logan Wilson, which seems to be what most people think we will do. I do think a TE is in play at any point in this draft, however, I don't think we take 2. I think they are ok with Asiasi at TE3, and a rookie as TE2. Other positions are just going to be valued higher. I'll be pretty surprised if we don't take at least one WR. We're most likely taking a backup QB on day 3. Signs now point to Aiden O'Connell or Dorian Thompson-Robinson, i'm guessing one of those at 206. Unless there is a guy they see as a top 15 guy in the draft at 28, I think we trade back into the 36-42 range to pick up another 3rd rd pick. I think the trade back is more likely than drafting someone at 28. They want a RB for the next 4 years, but I don't think they will reach for a guy either. Even with the legal trouble popping up again, I don't think Mixon being RB1 in 2023 is off the table. If we can get a guy in rds 2-4 they like (Charbonet, Abanikanda, Roschon, Bigsby, etc...) then I can see Mixon cut. Even think there is an outside shot they take 2 RB and move on from Chris Evans. We have 7 picks, here is how I think they rank need more so than what rd they will go in CB OT/Edge/DT - One of these, and the other two not at all TE RB IOL WR Backup QB If we can trade down for an extra pick, that is when maybe a 2nd CB or 2nd RB comes into play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 What's up with Bryan Bresee? I thought he was ticketed in the top 15, but I see him available around us in draft simulator and Kiper sent him to us in his most recent mock. Why's he falling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Beck Bristow said: What's up with Bryan Bresee? I thought he was ticketed in the top 15, but I see him available around us in draft simulator and Kiper sent him to us in his most recent mock. Why's he falling? I don't think he is falling, I think back end of round one was where he has been. He was a mega hyped prospect going into Clemson, and he was good, but was not consistent. When he's on, he looks like a monster, but there were games he just disappeared as well and not always against top competition. End of the day, he only had 9 sacks and 15 TFL in 3 years at Clemson in 25 games played. With Breese you are banking on athletic upside (9.61 RAS) more so than college production. If he was some random 3 star prospect at a mid level B1G school, he'd probably be viewed as more of a rd2/rd3 pick with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 Three trade downs, and a trade of Jonah for a mid third round pick, this would be an A+ draft for me if it were reality (and yes, I realize that some of these guys probably won't be available where I get them, but a man can dream, can't he????!!!???) 35. Darnell Wright OT Tennessee 60. Julius Brents CB Kansas State 79. Sam LaPorta TE Iowa 81. Israel Abanikanda RB Pittsburgh 92. Zacch Pickens DT South Carolina 131. Dontayvion Wicks WR Virginia 163. Tyjae Spears RB Tulane 183. Chandler Zavala OG NC State 206. Michael Turk P Oklahoma 246. Josh Whyle TE Cincinnati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: Three trade downs, and a trade of Jonah for a mid third round pick, this would be an A+ draft for me if it were reality (and yes, I realize that some of these guys probably won't be available where I get them, but a man can dream, can't he????!!!???) 35. Darnell Wright OT Tennessee 60. Julius Brents CB Kansas State 79. Sam LaPorta TE Iowa 81. Israel Abanikanda RB Pittsburgh 92. Zacch Pickens DT South Carolina 131. Dontayvion Wicks WR Virginia 163. Tyjae Spears RB Tulane 183. Chandler Zavala OG NC State 206. Michael Turk P Oklahoma 246. Josh Whyle TE Cincinnati Even if you had to "settle" for Jones instead of Wright, that would be a massive haul. RB solved for awhile. Depth at other spots. Multiple TEs and Brents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, INbengalfan said: Even if you had to "settle" for Jones instead of Wright, that would be a massive haul. RB solved for awhile. Depth at other spots. Multiple TEs and Brents. Oddly enough, Jones went at 32, I traded down with him in mind, or possibly Forbes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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