Ty21 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, blkwdw13 said: Hopefully he is sincere because Alshon said he like Chicago also but he showed that was just lip service. (That one is for you @Tyty) Alshon had way more reason to leave imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Damikeeeee said: Can we give Fuller a 1st round tender? Alshon wasnt a mistake by us. He was gone. No, Fuller is an unrestricted free agent, so we can't tender him. Alshon should have been franchised and traded at worst. Fuller IMO will get franchised. Pace has to get offensive talent and having to get 2 starting CBs in one offseason is a hell of a task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, Tyty said: Alshon had way more reason to leave imo Agreed. Fuller proved he deserved money, Jeffery knew his value would be decimated with Loggains and Fox. He was right, having that long with Glennon proved he would have been screwed and we had no idea about Trubisky being drafted. He went to the best situation for himself, I don't blame him a bit. Pace didn't exercise the franchise tag that was available, so he took a risk and we lost on it IMO. I doubt that happens two times in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Jeffery finished the season 57/789/9. Is that worth 4/52? He's played in the league for 6 seasons, finished 2 of them over 1,000 yards, and didn't crack 850 in any of the other 4 seasons. He clearly didn't want to be back, and Pace didn't feel comfortable paying him that money when he clearly wasn't motivated. Obviously our WR situation this year plays a big part in us looking back and saying we should have done something about AJ, but I'm ok with Pace's decision, as long as he is proactive about it this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Honestly I hope Larry Fitzgerald is released. They are in a bad way in cap and he is 34. Still though he was fantastic. I'd give him a big deal so he could finish his career with us and climb above Moss and Owens in the rankings. He would likely only have great production for 1-2 years but has the skill and leadership we need at WR to pair with a few young talents. Would allow us to have a model for young developmental guys with big bodies like Ateman, St. Brown, Tate, so we don't have to draft a first round WR. I still would love to trade back to the middle of the first, get Kirk or Ridley and get St. Brown in the 3rd (part of the trade back) or Callway in the 4th (too talented and cheap to pass up). With Fitz and different goals around him Skill/Route running X - Fitz - Callaway (4th) Y- Meredith - Wright Z - Ridley (1st)- Inman/White Speed X - Fitz - Coutee (4th/5th) Y - Meredith - Wright Z - Kirk (1st) - Inman/White Size X- Fitz - St. Brown or Tate (3rd/4th) Y- Meredith - Wright Z- Ateman - Inman/White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Honestly I hope Larry Fitzgerald is released. They are in a bad way in cap and he is 34. Still though he was fantastic. I'd give him a big deal so he could finish his career with us and climb above Moss and Owens in the rankings. He would likely only have great production for 1-2 years but has the skill and leadership we need at WR to pair with a few young talents. Would allow us to have a model for young developmental guys with big bodies like Ateman, St. Brown, Tate, so we don't have to draft a first round WR. I still would love to trade back to the middle of the first, get Kirk or Ridley and get St. Brown in the 3rd (part of the trade back) or Callway in the 4th (too talented and cheap to pass up). With Fitz and different goals around him Skill/Route running X - Fitz - Callaway (4th) Y- Meredith - Wright Z - Ridley (1st)- Inman/White Speed X - Fitz - Coutee (4th/5th) Y - Meredith - Wright Z - Kirk (1st) - Inman/White Size X- Fitz - St. Brown or Tate (3rd/4th) Y- Meredith - Wright Z- Ateman - Inman/White The Cardinals just extended him so I can not in any way see them cutting him, he's going to retire there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, blkwdw13 said: The Cardinals just extended him so I can not in any way see them cutting him, he's going to retire there. I expect him to stay, but a new HC might want to open some cash for young talent. It is a 1 out of 20 chance, but still. I'd also try throwing a conditional 2019 draft pick to the Browns for Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I think we should start organizing this by potential coaching hires as in this market with how much money everyone has those connections could matter in recruiting. DeFillipo TE Trey Burton WR Jordan Matthews WR Terrelle Pryor WR Taylor Gabriel, although he sounds destined for Shanny in SF. McDaniels WR Danny Amendola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, WindyCity said: I think we should start organizing this by potential coaching hires as in this market with how much money everyone has those connections could matter in recruiting. DeFillipo TE Trey Burton WR Jordan Matthews WR Terrelle Pryor WR Taylor Gabriel, although he sounds destined for Shanny in SF. McDaniels WR Danny Amendola You think Gabriel goes rob SF even though Goodwin went there last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damikeeeee Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I think Landry resigns with Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Damikeeeee said: I think Landry resigns with Miami. I think he’s only back in Miami if he’s tagged. I think he’s gonna get stupid big money on the FA market and be the biggest FA bust of this offseason. Dude had 112 catches this year and didn’t break 1000 yards receiving. 8.8 ypc is a running back number, and 10.1 ypc over 400 catches for his career is pure slot receiver, and frankly even low for a guy like that (Wes Walker for example 11.0 ypc for his career). Someone’s gonna give him like 6/80 with like half guaranteed, and that’s insane IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: I think he’s only back in Miami if he’s tagged. I think he’s gonna get stupid big money on the FA market and be the biggest FA bust of this offseason. Dude had 112 catches this year and didn’t break 1000 yards receiving. 8.8 ypc is a running back number, and 10.1 ypc over 400 catches for his career is pure slot receiver, and frankly even low for a guy like that (Wes Walker for example 11.0 ypc for his career). Someone’s gonna give him like 6/80 with like half guaranteed, and that’s insane IMO. Yeah I really hope it's not us...we need speed on the outside to open up the running game and Shaheen underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said: I think he’s only back in Miami if he’s tagged. I think he’s gonna get stupid big money on the FA market and be the biggest FA bust of this offseason. Dude had 112 catches this year and didn’t break 1000 yards receiving. 8.8 ypc is a running back number, and 10.1 ypc over 400 catches for his career is pure slot receiver, and frankly even low for a guy like that (Wes Walker for example 11.0 ypc for his career). Someone’s gonna give him like 6/80 with like half guaranteed, and that’s insane IMO. I don't want him here. That dude is legit crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsooie5 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Trent Murphy would be a fantastic under the radar signing with a lot of upside. Very similar to Akiem Hicks. He had a 49TT 9.5 sack sophomore season. He was on pace for a 12+ sack 3rd year. The Injury AND suspension are definitely concerning, but if he can regain his form, that's an extremely high upside FA signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, pigsooie5 said: Trent Murphy would be a fantastic under the radar signing with a lot of upside. Very similar to Akiem Hicks. He had a 49TT 9.5 sack sophomore season. He was on pace for a 12+ sack 3rd year. The Injury AND suspension are definitely concerning, but if he can regain his form, that's an extremely high upside FA signing. He's the dude I target after I kick McPhee's *** to the curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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