LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 hours ago, bruceb said: It is not the divine football gods that we need to beseech or appease. We need to remove the malocchio, whatever it's source. Trivisonno did it through an old Italian mama for the Cavs the year they drafted LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathouse Sticks Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 10 hours ago, mistakey said: dude we all said this about hue tho after we fired mike pettine and somehow it got WORSE help us, divine football gods So, here would be the comparison. How successful would Hue have been with the roster that Pettine had to work with? You have to compare apples to apples, or in their case, bowling balls to bowling balls, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, Kathouse Sticks said: So, here would be the comparison. How successful would Hue have been with the roster that Pettine had to work with? You have to compare apples to apples, or in their case, bowling balls to bowling balls, right? Hue wouldn’t of been successful. Pettine had some success because he accepted the role of hiring a legit OC, even tho he left after a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: Yeah I don't know if Pettine was a worse coach than Hue, certainly wasn't any good at clock management type things but we did put more wins up without a vastly superior roster. I had zero expectations going into this year. I thought it would lessen feeling bad about losing and it has. I am a little upset that we couldn't surpass the zero expectation that I had. What’s crazy is that pettines wins came from offense cause his defense was so bad and hues losses stem from his offense at least... 90% of the time. Seems like our coaches choke when it comes to what they know best when they coach in Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Somehow Chris Palmer found a way to win 5 games in 2 years with a bunch of misfits worse than the players from "The Replacements" and a GM in Dwight Clark that was as bad of a talent evaluator as I've ever seen, although Ray Farmer gives him a run for his money. The fact that there's even a hint of doubt that Hue may keep his job after going 1-31 is nothing short of hilarious and astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Kathouse Sticks said: So, here would be the comparison. How successful would Hue have been with the roster that Pettine had to work with? You have to compare apples to apples, or in their case, bowling balls to bowling balls, right? Hues clock management is even worse than pettines. Which is saying a lot. We wouldn’t have won a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, mistakey said: What’s crazy is that pettines wins came from offense cause his defense was so bad and hues losses stem from his offense at least... 90% of the time. Seems like our coaches choke when it comes to what they know best when they coach in Cleveland This is something I’ve noticed in all my years watching the nfl. Seems like offensive minded coaches have a bad offense and vicey versey quite a bit of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 10 hours ago, MWil23 said: The fact that there's even a hint of doubt that Hue may keep his job after going 1-31 is nothing short of hilarious and astounding. Not sure I understand this. Are you saying that anyone who thinks he is gone is hilariously/astoundingly wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, bruceb said: Not sure I understand this. Are you saying that anyone who thinks he is gone is hilariously/astoundingly wrong? No I’m saying that he’s going to go 1-31 and yet will quite still possibly keep his job. It’s hilarious. What other profession or even pro sports organization would stand for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: No I’m saying that he’s going to go 1-31 and yet will quite still possibly keep his job. It’s hilarious. What other profession or even pro sports organization would stand for this? I could have gotten paid millions to go 1-31 and cast the blame elsewhere. The fact that there are arguments for keeping him are at this point astounding. The bar was set low. He could have gone 4-12 twice and the level of satisfaction would have been pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, NateDawg said: I could have gotten paid millions to go 1-31 and cast the blame elsewhere. I honestly do not think that most any of us would have gone 1-31. Maybe 2-30 at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Bonanza23 said: This is something I’ve noticed in all my years watching the nfl. Seems like offensive minded coaches have a bad offense and vicey versey quite a bit of the time. It’s because coaches know what they can’t do and over compensate for the opposite side of the ball. “Well I’m not sure if I can bring the best out of my defense since I’m an offensive coach. So I need to allocate more resources and attention to defense. I can do more with less on offense.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 12 hours ago, candyman93 said: It’s because coaches know what they can’t do and over compensate for the opposite side of the ball. “Well I’m not sure if I can bring the best out of my defense since I’m an offensive coach. So I need to allocate more resources and attention to defense. I can do more with less on offense.” I also think that a lot of these "offensive genius" types get brought into teams with a GREAT defense and a sub par offense to "turn it around", like Billick in Baltimore and Gruden in Tampa Bay. A lot of times these guys just create a very vanilla offense predicated on pounding the ball in the running game, controlling the clock, limiting turnovers, and limiting the opponent's possessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 I have a bad feeling about this. Just to many people saying he isn’t getting fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: I have a bad feeling about this. Just to many people saying he isn’t getting fired John Dorsey fan here. He's gonna fire Hue. Like this week. Pretty much guarantee this is his "To do" list: 1. Change the culture via mass turnover both players and coaching staff. 2. Figure out if it's Kizer or someone in the draft within the first 5 picks at QB. 3. Take the BPA the rest of the draft. 4. ????? 5. Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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