FloydFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Hard to say for certain, but probably not well. Play and tape says he should've been a round 2 pick. People hoped he'd get humbled after the draft, but clearly hasn't. Million dollar talent, bankrupt brain. Sad how often you see that combo together. The good thing here is giving him a flyer would be essentially as low cost of a flyer as we can take on a good talent like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, FloydFan said: Sad how often you see that combo together. The good thing here is giving him a flyer would be essentially as low cost of a flyer as we can take on a good talent like that. True. He's here now. Guess we'll see. AP would earn some additional goodwill if he cam keep that kid straight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: True. He's here now. Guess we'll see. AP would earn some additional goodwill if he cam keep that kid straight. I think this is more evidence that we would have probably taken Carter if AP and Champ were running things during the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, FloydFan said: I think this is more evidence that we would have probably taken Carter if AP and Champ were running things during the draft. AP maybe. Champ? Nah, dude can't draft. Besides, a mid season waiver vs top 10 pick....one is forgivable to the masses, the other isn't. I still gotta stand by the idea we simply couldn't take Carter thanks to Ruggs' moronic dumbassery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, ronjon1990 said: AP maybe. Champ? Nah, dude can't draft. Besides, a mid season waiver vs top 10 pick....one is forgivable to the masses, the other isn't. I still gotta stand by the idea we simply couldn't take Carter thanks to Ruggs' moronic dumbassery. I tend to stand by that as well, the masses would have been throwing enormous amounts of shade at the front office if we had. I am however more optimistic about Champ. May not be the dude but I'm not anti him as a front office guy at least at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: AP maybe. Champ? Nah, dude can't draft. Besides, a mid season waiver vs top 10 pick....one is forgivable to the masses, the other isn't. I still gotta stand by the idea we simply couldn't take Carter thanks to Ruggs' moronic dumbassery. Just hating to hate...... Probably can't draft draft because he's never had a job that required him to do it before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, FloydFan said: I think this is more evidence that we would have probably taken Carter if AP and Champ were running things during the draft. Completely different risk/rewards in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, big_palooka said: Completely different risk/rewards in this case. Aren't they both off field infractions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Just hating to hate...... Probably can't draft draft because he's never had a job that required him to do it before. Dude, are you actually rocking a single digit IQ? Can you read? Can you research anything? Like, really, what is it with you? Dude has been: College Scout, Assistant coordinator of pro and college scouting, Assistant director of pro personnel, Director of pro scouting, Assistant director of player personnel, and Assistant GM, but sure, he's never had any job or hand in the draft process. But just like with McDaniels being a HC and not an OC, your ignorance of job functions isn't surprising. Tell me again I'm just "hating to hate" though. Unlike you, I take the time to look stuff up and come prepared with actual facts and figures. You can keep coming with your dumbass little jabs and unsubstantiated nonsense. No wonder you were enamored with "the Way". You probably believe in fairytales and leprechauns, too. Edited November 14, 2023 by ronjon1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, FloydFan said: Aren't they both off field infractions? Meant more Carter, you're giving up a top 10 pick if he does something boneheaded. Jones, you're out nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: Dude, are you actually rocking a single digit IQ? Can you read? Can you research anything? Like, really, what is it with you? Dude has been: College Scout, Assistant coordinator of pro and college scouting, Assistant director of pro personnel, Director of pro scouting, Assistant director of player personnel, and Assistant GM, but sure, he's never had any job or hand in the draft process. But just like with McDaniels being a HC and not an OC, your ignorance of job functions isn't surprising. Tell me again I'm just "hating to hate" though. Unlike you, I take the time to look stuff up and come prepared with actual facts and figures. You can keep coming with your dumbass little jabs and unsubstantiated nonsense. No wonder you were enamored with "the Way". You probably believe in fairytales and leprechauns, too. Has Champ Kelly ever ran a draft room on draft day and made the draft picks? Answer..... no. So stop carrying on about how he can't draft. Or are you daft enough to think entry level and assistant jobs have final say over draft picks? Edited November 15, 2023 by big_palooka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: Dude, are you actually rocking a single digit IQ? Can you read? Can you research anything? Like, really, what is it with you? Dude has been: College Scout, Assistant coordinator of pro and college scouting, Assistant director of pro personnel, Director of pro scouting, Assistant director of player personnel, and Assistant GM, but sure, he's never had any job or hand in the draft process. But just like with McDaniels being a HC and not an OC, your ignorance of job functions isn't surprising. Tell me again I'm just "hating to hate" though. Unlike you, I take the time to look stuff up and come prepared with actual facts and figures. You can keep coming with your dumbass little jabs and unsubstantiated nonsense. No wonder you were enamored with "the Way". You probably believe in fairytales and leprechauns, too. .......wait fairies aren't real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justwinning Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: AP maybe. Champ? Nah, dude can't draft. How do you even know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 59 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Has Champ Kelly ever ran a draft room on draft day and made the draft picks? Answer..... no. So stop carrying on about how he can't draft. Or are you daft enough to think entry level and assistant jobs have final say over draft picks? I'm not opposed to Champ Kelly but I would have to see it. There's nothing that he can do midseason they can prove or disprove his ability so you kind of have to give him an off-season(even if it's just one). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Has Champ Kelly ever ran a draft room on draft day and made the draft picks? Answer..... no. So stop carrying on about how he can't draft. Or are you daft enough to think entry level and assistant jobs have final say over draft picks? Ok chief, ok. I get it, you're really just that incapable of intelligent conversation. Seriously, no wonder you marked so hard for Josh McDaniels. You haven't the slightest clue about how any of it works. Good to know. When Pat Graham winds up being a liability and Champ Kelly flops, I will make sure to remind you every single day just how much of a simp for all of them you were. Can't wait to see that 180 turn from you too. Get lost, kid, you're in over your head again and it's painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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