big9erfan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 When I look at our team I think our RB corps might well be the strongest position group on the team. No way do I want to spend a first round pick, likely a high one, on a RB. QB of course, but other than that give me an edge rusher or a shut down corner. Give me a stud WR. Turn the high pick into two lower first round picks and get me a C and a G. Other than big d-line guys I can't imagine wanting to use a high pick on any position less than on a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, big9erfan said: When I look at our team I think our RB corps might well be the strongest position group on the team. No way do I want to spend a first round pick, likely a high one, on a RB. QB of course, but other than that give me an edge rusher or a shut down corner. Give me a stud WR. Turn the high pick into two lower first round picks and get me a C and a G. Other than big d-line guys I can't imagine wanting to use a high pick on any position less than on a RB. I don't know about a high pick but a mid-rounder would suit me just fine. That's why I really like guys like Jaylen Samuels or Sony Michel round 4 or later of the draft. Both fit the offense from a pass-catching perspective and are tough, physical runners between the tackles, despite their speed and athleticism. Either could unseat both Brieda and Williams as far as the depth chart and I could see both being productive NFL ball carriers, sooner rather than later. Nobody likes Barkley more than me. I've been talking him up since early last year but he's definitely going top 10. Now if we do get Cousins, I'd be all for trading down and grabbing Barkley, then drafting a mid round QB like Findley later in the draft. That would be a dream scenario really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big9erfan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, 757-NINER said: I don't know about a high pick but a mid-rounder would suit me just fine. That's why I really guys like Jaylen Samuels or Sony Michel round 4 or later of the draft. Both fit the offense from a pass-catching perspective and are tough, physical runners between the tackles, despite their speed and athleticism. Either could unseat both Brieda and Williams as far as the depth chart and I could see both being productive NFL ball carriers, sooner rather than later. Fine with me. I was addressing the desire for Chubb, who I think is going very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Allen Lazard on ISU is a big bodied WR who has been making plays for them for quite sometime, a name I've always kept an eye out for for his size and physical play. Has the game winning TD catch with a OUs best CB, Jordan Thomas covering him fairly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 6 hours ago, J-ALL-DAY said: All in on Chubb. Meh on Findley. Don't think he has a NFL arm. Chubb is definitely one of my favorites for the 1st round if we sign Cousins. Count me in on this. Like Chubb, don't care for Finley. Doesn't help that he's old for a rookie and past my age cut off. I mean, this is his sixth year of eligibility in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 3:52 PM, Fureys49ers said: Allen Lazard on ISU is a big bodied WR who has been making plays for them for quite sometime, a name I've always kept an eye out for for his size and physical play. Has the game winning TD catch with a OUs best CB, Jordan Thomas covering him fairly well. With a push off or two mixed in there, yes. Oh that was a painful game. My Sooners hardly showed up to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 1:52 PM, Fureys49ers said: Allen Lazard on ISU is a big bodied WR who has been making plays for them for quite sometime, a name I've always kept an eye out for for his size and physical play. Has the game winning TD catch with a OUs best CB, Jordan Thomas covering him fairly well. Do you get a Devin Funchess vibe from him? I love his size, obviously, but I feel like he's stiff in his routes and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 So umm...what about UB's Drew Anderson? 597 passing yards and 7 TDs? Dat was nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Forge said: Do you get a Devin Funchess vibe from him? I love his size, obviously, but I feel like he's stiff in his routes and running. I do have my concerns over his separation ability but man can this dude catch the ball in traffic, definitely knows how to use his body, high point the ball and once it hits his hands it's a catch. From what I've seen he's got some run after the catch ability for a big guy too. He does look a little stiff and even in his YAC he doesn't appear to have great shake or fluidity when weaving through traffic so I'd imagine his route running is a little of the same. Watching some of his games though he does appear to have a good feel for sitting down in a zone and getting open for his QB when scrambling so I'd say he's got some natural football awareness, IQ or instincts, whatever you'd like to call it. He's been producing since he stepped foot at ISU too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48 1/2ers Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Fureys49ers said: I do have my concerns over his separation ability but man can this dude catch the ball in traffic, definitely knows how to use his body, high point the ball and once it hits his hands it's a catch. From what I've seen he's got some run after the catch ability for a big guy too. He does look a little stiff and even in his YAC he doesn't appear to have great shake or fluidity when weaving through traffic so I'd imagine his route running is a little of the same. Watching some of his games though he does appear to have a good feel for sitting down in a zone and getting open for his QB when scrambling so I'd say he's got some natural football awareness, IQ or instincts, whatever you'd like to call it. He's been producing since he stepped foot at ISU too. I thought he was strangely elusive after the catch too. I dont know where he's getting picked but I'd be happy with a weapon like him. Even if he's Funchess-like I'd be happy with that receiver paired with Taylor, Garcon, and Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 30 minutes ago, 48 1/2ers said: I thought he was strangely elusive after the catch too. I dont know where he's getting picked but I'd be happy with a weapon like him. Even if he's Funchess-like I'd be happy with that receiver paired with Taylor, Garcon, and Goodwin. That's similar to my thinking. Let's get a big bodied WR who has 50/50 skills and red zone appeal. That skill set would be nice to have next to a reliable Garçon and a quick, shifty slot guy like Taylor. I'd like to see another WR taken too like a Cam Phillips or Anthony Miller, to groom and possibly be a Garçon type as he gets older. Right now I think all these guys could be had in the 3rd-4th round range at this point in the season. Add in the speed element with Goodwin am I feel we have an all around solid WR group, prepared for both the now and future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I was pissed when the Browns stole Garrett, but I'm going to be angry beyond words if they steal Rosen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, Gore Whore 21 said: I was pissed when the Browns stole Garrett, but I'm going to be angry beyond words if they steal Rosen this year. Don't think of it as them stealing him or MG. They are just better at tanking than we are. We are just getting beat by a superior opponent. Besides, I think that we are still getting Cousins anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie9er Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Atleast we look competitive compare to the browns. We could easily be 4-1 right now can't say that about them. I'd be more worried about the giants stealing rosen or browns trading the pick for more picks cos they need more future picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Are you certain you guys are not mixing up Lazard and Butler? Both are Iowa St. WRs. Butler has REAL size at 6' 5" IIRC. Lazard is big, but I was certain Butler was the really tall one...could be wrong though... Ah, looked them up: Lazard is 6'5", Butler 6'6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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