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[Norm]

37 minutes ago, FinneasGage said:

 

Okay what the ****. I saw I'll be coming out of retirement then it disappears and says it's removed

 

Okay, it was Favre. 

Edited June 18, 2019 by Norm

[n8ghee]

2 hours ago, vegas492 said:

Adams is a lock.  MVS is a near lock.  I view everyone else as 50/50 to making it.

Davis has the obvious return ability that will separate him.  If GB finds someone else to do returns, he's an easy cut.  If not?  I have to think he makes it.

Kumerow has his QB's attention and has produced when called upon.  

ESB produced as a rookie and still has that size/speed stuff.

Moore has great potential and that quickness ala 'Vante.  

GMO actually has NFL production and his QB's trust.

I think they keep all 7.  They are all very talented and somewhat unique...while being young.  

Roll with two QB's to help make up for that.  

 

Id agree with this assessment, i see all 7 having a legitimate opportunity to make the squad. Injury could still play a factor as well...if one comes down with something perhaps they will be IR'd designated to return later how Kumerow was last year. 

[vegas492]

16 minutes ago, n8ghee said:

Id agree with this assessment, i see all 7 having a legitimate opportunity to make the squad. Injury could still play a factor as well...if one comes down with something perhaps they will be IR'd designated to return later how Kumerow was last year. 

Yup.  You know that one of them will be dinged up.  About the only thing that could change is this...if GB finds a return specialist that can play defense.  Then there may not be room for Davis.  But when healthy, Davis has proven to be a top return man.  So it is really tough to tell.

All have their merits and detriments, though much of the weaknesses, I think, are due to age and inexperience.

[Greg C.]

I think Allison and St. Brown are virtual locks, along with Adams and Valdes-Scantling of course, and Kumerow probably makes it too. That's five. If they keep six WRs, I think Moore is the odd man out, based on his poor performance and lack of playing time last year. If he turns it around in the preseason, he could make things really interesting, though. Davis could also be the odd man out, but I think he's less likely to be cut than Moore because he has carved out a role on special teams. He's the only real return man they've had for the past several years, and he's a decent gunner too. 

[Leader]

Packers waiving TE Michael Roberts with failed physical

[mikemike778]

On ‎19‎/‎06‎/‎2019 at 3:20 AM, Greg C. said:

I think Allison and St. Brown are virtual locks, along with Adams and Valdes-Scantling of course, and Kumerow probably makes it too. That's five. If they keep six WRs, I think Moore is the odd man out, based on his poor performance and lack of playing time last year. If he turns it around in the preseason, he could make things really interesting, though. Davis could also be the odd man out, but I think he's less likely to be cut than Moore because he has carved out a role on special teams. He's the only real return man they've had for the past several years, and he's a decent gunner too. 

I think if Moore shows anything he is kept - they rated him higher than EQB and MVS in the draft - Adams is the best example of why you want to give a young receiver a bit longer. Obviously if he looks really bad still then you have to cut bait. 

Kumerow should be OK at the position. But he probably doesn't have the ceiling to make it worth messing around with unbalanced rosters or letting go players with potential. If Moore shows anything and Davis is needed as a ST and there are no injuries then can see him as a numbers casualty. That's a lot of ands though. If Moore shows something (but not as big a something as you'd like) maybe they need to get him on whatever drills are best at generating minor injuries.

[Uffdaswede]

On 6/19/2019 at 3:50 PM, Leader said:

Packers waiving TE Michael Roberts with failed physical

Sorry to hear that.

However I only wish to comment that "waive" is such an excellent verb for dismissing a player. As in we don't have much to say as you go so we'll just wave as you leave. I always have that picture in my mind of a released player walking out of HR and down the hallways with team employees waving goodbye.

[GBPFan]

I can't find this transaction listed on the Packer's site so I'm not sure of the exact designation. However, my understanding is that someone waived with an injury designation would come back to the team and go on IR if nobody claims him. It's possible that Roberts might not be gone for good.

[Fl0nkerton]

G-mo lookin' skrong.

[Leader]

Ben Fennell‏:  Packers WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling had 8 receptions of 20+ yards last season. Valdes-Scantling is a RARE size/speed combo WR that can win downfield. Impressive rookie year - sky's the limit in year 2

[ThatJerkDave]

You just wish that Kumerow wasn't the oldest WR in the room.  That alone is a tie-breaker, not in his favor.  But if he is better than the next guy you have to go with the better player.  

I think there are 5 WR spots for your roster.  It is very unlikely that you go with fewer than that.  More than 5 are cases when you start taking the best 53 players into account or specialist roles.  Right now I would say:  Adams, Allison, MVS are locks.  Then EQ and Kumerow round out the 5 spots.  Moore has potential to be very good and Davis is the electric special teams player.  Keeping the extra WRs also probably depends on the TE numbers.  We could potentially keep 4 of them, which probably means we keep one less WR.

[Norm]

2 hours ago, GBPFan said:

I can't find this transaction listed on the Packer's site so I'm not sure of the exact designation. However, my understanding is that someone waived with an injury designation would come back to the team and go on IR if nobody claims him. It's possible that Roberts might not be gone for good.

I 'think' this negates the entire waiver claim. 

[Leader]

NFL Com: NFL Division Power Rankings: NFC North stands above the rest

1) NFC North: Bears, Vikings, Packers, Lions
The North has a nice combination of quality quarterbacks and defense-leaning rosters. Mitchell Trubisky is the division's most unproven signal-caller, but he has incredible support in head coach Matt Nagy and the league's most talented defense. The Vikings' defense has an almost unprecedented amount of continuity under coach Mike Zimmer, while the Packers' defense could be more talented than Aaron Rodgers' side of the ball for the first time in a long time.

The Lions being fourth in line says a lot about the quality of this division. It's not hard to imagine Detroit winning eight or more games, although playing six games against the teams in this division will make it tougher. The expectations for all four of these teams will be high enough to make disappointment for at least one of them inevitable.

2) AFC North: Ravens, Steelers, Browns, Bengals
3) NFC South: Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Buccaneers
4) NFC West: Rams, Seahawks, 49ers, Cardinals
5) AFC South: Texans, Colts, Titans, Jaguars
6) AFC West: Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders
7) NFC East: Cowboys, Eagles, Redskins, Giants
8) AFC East: Patriots, Dolphins, Bills, Jets
 

[craig]

For now, I expect the Packers to retain all 7 WR.  

I see Moore as the only question mark, whether he makes the 53 or goes practice squad.  I have no idea, but it's hypothetically possible, for example, that they may see some shortcomings in terms of professionalism, mental aptitude, and hands that would make them willing to expose him.

But looking at roster predictions, I don't really see it being all that hard to keep all 7 on the 53.  

As you guys have already noted, good chance that injury will thin the competition, within that room, and within the other contenders for the last handful of roster spots.  

ST is factor for back-of-roster guys, and all of the WR under consideration have capacity for extensive ST usage.  Adams is the only WR who doesn't do ST, all six others did. 

Hearing some of the other names mentioned taking punts and kicks, it seems other are not compelling:  either guys who have even less scrimmage function and chance to make the team than Davis; or guys who are roster locks but aren't that fast or that promising as return guys (Tramon, for example); of Jaire who to me seems really electric but way too important to unnecessarily risk him and tire him out back there.  

So I think Davis as return guy and WR seems pretty obvious probability, the default expectation.  

I also think his different size and speed make him a keep for scrimmage.  There are guys who run, but MVS and Davis are the only two really deep-speed fast ones.  And I think his smaller size and quickness may make him attractive to MLF for certain sets.  Being different in speed and quickness and shiftiness, I think MLF will want that uniqueness.  

So I'm predicting with some confidence that health permitting, Davis will make it.  Think Moore is the only question mark, and I'm predicting they keep all 7, health permitting.  

 

[AlexGreen#20]

Keeping 27 year old Kumerow over 24 year old Moore would be gross