Packerraymond Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Graham had 16 games and dealt with a damn broken thumb for ten games in Aaron's worst season of football. This notion that Cook was somehow electric and Graham was trash is so false. Cook had 5 games under 20 yards receiving. Graham had 4. Three of which were with a ****ing broken thumb. Where does your eye test come in? Come on, we can't seriously be comparing these two. Rodgers needs a TE like Finley or Cook, it's blatantly obvious. Bennett and Graham were square pegs we are forcing through round holes. The % Rodgers throws over the middle of the field with Cook/Finley versus what he's done with Rich Rod, Donald Lee, Martellus Bennett and Jimmy Graham is probably a drastic stat. Rodgers wants a move tight end, it's beyond obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, Packerraymond said: Packers record in the games Graham played: 6-9-1 Packers record in the games Cook played: 8-2 Aaron Rodgers in the games Graham played: 62% comp 25TD/2 INT (16 games) Aaron Rodgers in the games Cook played: 67% comp 25 TD/1INT (10 games) Packers PPG with Graham: 23.5 Packers PPG with Cook: 28.5 Just a bad comparison. Get over yourself. Packers other options in the games Graham played - Davante Adams. Packers other options in the games Cook played - ****ing Jordy ****ing Nelson, ****ing Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, with good Lane Taylor, TJ Lang, Bulaga, Bakhtiari... Don't even give me that bull crap. Rodgers sucked in 2018 worse than any other year and I've posted here literally (exact meaning of literally, not hyperbole) no less than 10 times visual evidence of Rodgers refusing to throw to a wide open Jimmy Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Get over yourself. Packers other options in the games Graham played - Davante Adams. Packers other options in the games Cook played - ****ing Jordy ****ing Nelson, ****ing Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, with good Lane Taylor, TJ Lang, Bulaga, Bakhtiari... Don't even give me that bull crap. Rodgers sucked in 2018 worse than any other year and I've posted here literally (exact meaning of literally, not hyperbole) no less than 10 times visual evidence of Rodgers refusing to throw to a wide open Jimmy Graham. Rodgers had those same guys minus Cook in 2016. We went 2-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Get over yourself. Packers other options in the games Graham played - Davante Adams. Packers other options in the games Cook played - ****ing Jordy ****ing Nelson, ****ing Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, with good Lane Taylor, TJ Lang, Bulaga, Bakhtiari... Don't even give me that bull crap. Rodgers sucked in 2018 worse than any other year and I've posted here literally (exact meaning of literally, not hyperbole) no less than 10 times visual evidence of Rodgers refusing to throw to a wide open Jimmy Graham. Rodgers with all those guys minus Cook in 2016: 15 TDs/ 6 INTs Rodgers with Cook: 25 TDs/ 1 INT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Nevermind. Edited September 10, 2019 by Outpost31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Where does your eye test come in? Jimmy just lumbers down the field...although I think he looks a bit more spry this year than last Now he needs to focus on his basketball prowess and box out and out- rebound the DBs. He's always had those skills, but they're more important now than in the past. In one of the articles I read they talked about how different DCs handle Jimmy. If you don't pay attention to him, he can hurt you. But you also can't waste a double team on him anymore. Glad to have him and AR will continue lean on him in the red zone based on his vertical separation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Oh, did he play basketball? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Nevermind. It is a tough argument with Ray, OP I believe in Graham and last week showed that. He is a much different receiver then Cook though. Cook still has speed, Graham is slower but hopefully for us having his experience will be key. Cook prior to his recent times was not known for much which doesn't help. All in all he would have been a good resign for us. Graham we need to use him and use him well and he will provide a decent player. He just won't blow the seam away like Cook will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Jimmy just lumbers down the field...although I think he looks a bit more spry this year than last Now he needs to focus on his basketball prowess and box out and out- rebound the DBs. He's always had those skills, but they're more important now than in the past. In one of the articles I read they talked about how different DCs handle Jimmy. If you don't pay attention to him, he can hurt you. But you also can't waste a double team on him anymore. Glad to have him and AR will continue lean on him in the red zone based on his vertical separation Decent view he should be a big first down and TD target he is no idiot and knows how to get open and has good hands. If we grow Bob T and sprinkle him in we should be fine at TE this year and can get Jace back for the second half. Bob should be the seam breaker and burner at our TE position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, PACKRULE said: It is a tough argument with Ray, OP I believe in Graham and last week showed that. He is a much different receiver then Cook though. Cook still has speed, Graham is slower but hopefully for us having his experience will be key. Cook prior to his recent times was not known for much which doesn't help. All in all he would have been a good resign for us. Graham we need to use him and use him well and he will provide a decent player. He just won't blow the seam away like Cook will. I fail to see where @incognito_man point that Cook's departure somehow means Graham is bad. He's been alright here, I have no qualms with him on the roster. Cook was a better fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 This forum has become such a joke My point with the cwood quote was that posting just the stats is ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: I fail to see where @incognito_man point that Cook's departure somehow means Graham is bad. He's been alright here, I have no qualms with him on the roster. Cook was a better fit. I agree i did not see you saying that, Cook would have been a nice fit that speed would be nice right now bot hopefully Bobby Tonyan can be that for us. With that said TT made a mistake their i think Ego got in the way and or something with Cook. We would be well under the cost of Graham. Hindsight and it sucks but we have what we have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBURGE said: This forum has become such a joke My point with the cwood quote was that posting just the stats is ridiculous Hurt feeling report coming your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I saw Cook catch a pass upfield for 31 yards yesterday. I know he's a little older, but dang, he can still flat out RUN!!! Have to admit to having some envy when watching him. Nothing against Graham, but I miss Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 all i know is our next TE has to have a culinary or food-centric last name or he will prolly suckFranks Lee Finley Quarless RodgersCookGraham really makes u think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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