StinkySauce Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 10 hours ago, skibrett15 said: well right now throwing is significantly more effective. How about we try throwing more until it's not significantly more effective. That would make the whole thing more effective I’m not against throwing more, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 11 hours ago, vegas492 said: I didn't purchase the highest end PFF that shows me pressures, but pro football reference has him at....17. And it has his 2018 pressures at 35. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitZa00.htm PFR seems to have a different threshold for a hurry. Might have to physically hit the QB. They list Z.Smith as 11 QB hits, 6 of which are knockdowns. Which leaves 5 non-knockdown hits, which is pretty close to the 6 hurries listed. Hard to believe he's only had 1 hurry all year that wasn't a hit. The only things they add for the pressure stat are hurries+knockdowns+sacks, with no mention of hits, so the ''hits' must overlap in some way with at least some of the other stats. Maybe PFF only counts 'hits' if they are a knockdown, since they list 7 hits for Smith. They list him at 18 hurries, and the hits do not overlap in that stat. Strange that all the numbers are a little off. you'd think at least hits and knockdowns are discrete things that wouldn't have the discrepancies that you might see in how different places count hurries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Really hoping this isn't based on this year/last week. Hasn't he shown this since his rookie year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Leader said: Tom Silverstein: Packers NT Kenny Clark said he will appeal a $10,527 fine he received for an unsportsmanlike penalty against the Cowboys. He was fined $21,056 in Week 4 for a late hit vs. the #Eagles. "I've been playing for free the last two weeks," he said. This is why I'll never get upset at any player doing whatever they can to get as much money as they can by any means possible. When I was younger, I fell victim to siding with the team/owners(specifically the Javon Walker situation). Football is the most violent sport and these dudes got the worst contract situations of any league, as well as having the shortest career arcs as a whole. Hoping GB locks Clark up soon to a hefty extension. He's more than earned it by now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, deltarich87 said: This is why I'll never get upset at any player doing whatever they can to get as much money as they can by any means possible. When I was younger, I fell victim to siding with the team/owners(specifically the Javon Walker situation). Football is the most violent sport and these dudes got the worst contract situations of any league, as well as having the shortest career arcs as a whole. Hoping GB locks Clark up soon to a hefty extension. He's more than earned it by now jones got ******* fined for waving lol. Its a goddamn joke. you should only get fined for stuff like the hit on williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 za'darius smith is the best thing to ever happen to this team besides tony brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 18 hours ago, Gopackgonerd said: jones got ******* fined for waving lol. Its a goddamn joke. you should only get fined for stuff like the hit on williams He should've been penalized and had the TD taken away, as far as I was concerned. Is it really that hard to play by the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Greg C. said: He should've been penalized and had the TD taken away, as far as I was concerned. Is it really that hard to play by the rules? For waving at a guy? Cmon now even if it is, that's ridiculously dumb rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: For waving at a guy? Cmon now even if it is, that's ridiculously dumb rule. It's taunting, and taunting is against the rules. So don't taunt your opponents, especially while the play is still in progress. I realize I'm in the minority, because most fans nowadays enjoy taunting in pro sports, even though it remains completely illegal in high school and college sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Greg C. said: It's taunting, and taunting is against the rules. So don't taunt your opponents, especially while the play is still in progress. I realize I'm in the minority, because most fans nowadays enjoy taunting in pro sports, even though it remains completely illegal in high school and college sports. The fining part is what gets me. Even though it is the rules I just dont agree with it to a certain extent. They shouldnt get fined for such little things like this especially how much some guys make. I think you should only get fined if it's something like a nasty uncalled for hit or something I think I'd only be against taunting if it was something really really bad. Waving is like such a little thing that there should be levels to what to call for taunting. He didnt even get flagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Greg C. said: It's taunting, and taunting is against the rules. So don't taunt your opponents, especially while the play is still in progress. I realize I'm in the minority, because most fans nowadays enjoy taunting in pro sports, even though it remains completely illegal in high school and college sports. Illegal hits are so much wore and you see the same amount of a fine here for the wave than a helmet to helmet hit .... ridiculous. Sure, it was a wave and shouldn't have done it but to have the same fine amount is just plain goofy. Think most fans don't enjoy taunting as much as you think .. I don't necessarily like it but pro sports compared to high school is a little bit of overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Lulz. You're definitely in the minority. The team page posted it as the recap picture. The NFL homepage posted it as a highlight. If they use it for marketing I really don't think it should be fined. Like when Zeke jumped in the salvation army cauldron. It's silly nonsense, not malicious. Edited October 13, 2019 by HighCalebR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, HighCalebR said: Lulz. You're definitely in the minority. The team page posted it as the recap picture. The NFL homepage posted it as a highlight. If they use it for marketing I really don't think it should be fined. Like when Zeke jumped in the salvation army cauldron. It's silly nonsense, not malicious. Yeah it's messed up that a player gets fined for something the NFL puts up on its homepage. That should be an easy appeal to win with a competent rep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 No one claimed the NFL was consistent. If an opposing WR or RB did the same to our defense, I would want a penalty. It is taunting. Period. They are letting guys run 60 yards to an end zone, gather up, and do their thing. That should be good enough IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Illegal hits can be unintentional. Sloppy form,bang bang, ect. Waving is a clear decision. I agree players with a track record of doing it should be fined and suspended more aggressively for repeat offenders. Guys like Burfict and Brandon Merriweather should have been suspend earlier, more often, and for longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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