Pickle Rick Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Gonna go ahead and make my vote. ksj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 KSJ - 5 - TK3, Matts, ET80, Hockey, famousJ Matts - 3 (utley, mookie, bcb Mookie - 2 - Raves, LTBF Sanchez -1 (gopher Whicker - 1( Ruskie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Friday night. No surprise. Not sold on KSJ. Like Mookie and Sanchez and Whicker better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: Friday night. No surprise. Not sold on KSJ. Like Mookie and Sanchez and Whicker better. Like I posted earlier l, mookie and ksj are my top 2, why do you like mookie better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Okay so what's the big reason for KSJ? I'm still not 100% on the Matts claim. It all seems awfully convenient for him. So he says mafia can send him a name through the host that he can choose or not to hit. So how did that go down? Mafia ended up targeting him with some move, got told "nope he's Il Dulce, now why don't you send him a name that he can maybe hit?" He says he was identified by the mafia because he made it super obvious who he was... and we're just taking that on face value? After seeing Tk3 and Dome try and locate LTBF last game... I really don't think it's quite easy even if you are looking for him. And what was Matts' plan? "Hey I'm going to crumb my Il Dulce role to the mafia super hard so that they figure out who I am... just to turn down their hit"? To what end? And does it make sense at all for a bunch of mob bosses to be like "aw don't worry about that guy who actively turned down our hit... he's still neutral to us... maybe we'll just ask him nicely again someday" Matts could be telling the truth, but even if so we're losing a guy who is just going to help us scum hunt. Matts is a great player and all, but that doesn't seem valuable enough to potentially lose the game over. There's a chance he's lying and is an enemy or will become an enemy. Is there a better chance KSJ flips scum than Matts lying? Also, knowing that all the regular civilians have 1-shot pro-town powers, lynching a civ is worse than a guy with 100% neutral abilities (which no one has any idea what moves Matts could actually have?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Famous Jameis said: Like I posted earlier l, mookie and ksj are my top 2, why do you like mookie better I don't. I like KSJ less than Mookie, hence voting for someone who might actually be lynched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 KSJ - 5 - TK3, Matts, ET80, Hockey, famousJ Matts - 3 (utley, mookie, bcb Mookie - 3 - Raves, LTBF, Ruskie Sanchez -1 (gopher Didn't vote yet: Whicker ksj Ragnorak sanchez LBC jfinley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Whicker said: Okay so what's the big reason for KSJ? I'm still not 100% on the Matts claim. It all seems awfully convenient for him. So he says mafia can send him a name through the host that he can choose or not to hit. So how did that go down? Mafia ended up targeting him with some move, got told "nope he's Il Dulce, now why don't you send him a name that he can maybe hit?" He says he was identified by the mafia because he made it super obvious who he was... and we're just taking that on face value? After seeing Tk3 and Dome try and locate LTBF last game... I really don't think it's quite easy even if you are looking for him. And what was Matts' plan? "Hey I'm going to crumb my Il Dulce role to the mafia super hard so that they figure out who I am... just to turn down their hit"? To what end? And does it make sense at all for a bunch of mob bosses to be like "aw don't worry about that guy who actively turned down our hit... he's still neutral to us... maybe we'll just ask him nicely again someday" Matts could be telling the truth, but even if so we're losing a guy who is just going to help us scum hunt. Matts is a great player and all, but that doesn't seem valuable enough to potentially lose the game over. There's a chance he's lying and is an enemy or will become an enemy. Is there a better chance KSJ flips scum than Matts lying? Also, knowing that all the regular civilians have 1-shot pro-town powers, lynching a civ is worse than a guy with 100% neutral abilities (which no one has any idea what moves Matts could actually have?) He became very defensive earlier....mookie and ksj just stand out to me way more than anyone else (other than Matts of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I am super tired and am likely to head to bed soon. I might set an alarm for night time. But as it stands I am going to turn down any offers made from civ/mafia and sit on my hit. @Raves and @RuskieTitan => If yall are on, expect a late night swing to me. Your votes are probably key. It would be wise to watch me tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Whicker said: Okay so what's the big reason for KSJ? I'm still not 100% on the Matts claim. It all seems awfully convenient for him. So he says mafia can send him a name through the host that he can choose or not to hit. So how did that go down? Mafia ended up targeting him with some move, got told "nope he's Il Dulce, now why don't you send him a name that he can maybe hit?" He says he was identified by the mafia because he made it super obvious who he was... and we're just taking that on face value? After seeing Tk3 and Dome try and locate LTBF last game... I really don't think it's quite easy even if you are looking for him. And what was Matts' plan? "Hey I'm going to crumb my Il Dulce role to the mafia super hard so that they figure out who I am... just to turn down their hit"? To what end? And does it make sense at all for a bunch of mob bosses to be like "aw don't worry about that guy who actively turned down our hit... he's still neutral to us... maybe we'll just ask him nicely again someday" Matts could be telling the truth, but even if so we're losing a guy who is just going to help us scum hunt. Matts is a great player and all, but that doesn't seem valuable enough to potentially lose the game over. There's a chance he's lying and is an enemy or will become an enemy. Is there a better chance KSJ flips scum than Matts lying? Also, knowing that all the regular civilians have 1-shot pro-town powers, lynching a civ is worse than a guy with 100% neutral abilities (which no one has any idea what moves Matts could actually have?) I do agree that I don't think it was super obvious at all. Or even a tiny bit obvious. But if I'm scum, I'm not killing Matts because I expect town to lynch him at some point. And a lack of CCing makes the role pretty much assured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Whicker said: "Hey I'm going to crumb my Il Dulce role to the mafia super hard so that they figure out who I am... just to turn down their hit"? To what end? And does it make sense at all for a bunch of mob bosses to be like "aw don't worry about that guy who actively turned down our hit... he's still neutral to us... maybe we'll just ask him nicely again someday" I was crumbing to both sides. And I was debating on how I would play it; wasnt sure exactly how it would all go down. I only got an offer from mafia. The civ group did not pick up on it. Once I turned down mafia I knew I would have to explain why so they wouldnt hit me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 So I just reread the pots where mookie was puching mats pretty hard, seemed forced, not to mention he has since disappeared....mookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: I do agree that I don't think it was super obvious at all. Or even a tiny bit obvious. I think it is more obvious if you had been reading my post with the knowledge of the role. Both the mafia and civs knew I was out there and they could hire me. They were reading with that filter in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 KSJ - 4 - TK3, Matts, ET80, Hockey, Mookie - 4 - Raves, LTBF, Ruskie, famousJ Matts - 3 (utley, mookie, bcb Sanchez -1 (gopher Didn't vote yet: Whicker ksj Ragnorak sanchez LBC jfinley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Famous Jameis said: So I just reread the pots where mookie was puching mats pretty hard, seemed forced, not to mention he has since disappeared....mookie and then made a quick get out... did he realize he was forcing it? Kind of seems like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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